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Pretty damn spectacular fireworks. The ESA observers have a knack for words.
Pretty damn spectacular fireworks. The ESA observers have a knack for words.
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
Here's the article about the failure. Probably that guy who said "Noooo!!" in a despairing voice had decades of his work blow up in front of his eyes.
Last edited by DanS; March 12, 2006, 17:24.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
Awesome video!!blehComment
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Did those videos cut out as the people ran away? The one guy said they ran for miles but the video certainly wasn't that long...Comment
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I don't think they ran for miles. I think they ran a couple hundred feet and then hit the ground out of instinct.
I'm sure it was quite terrifying, if only for a brief moment. If a Saturn V had done something similar, a 4 mile radius would have been obliterated.Last edited by DanS; March 12, 2006, 23:59.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I take it that this was an unmanned flight, or it would have been major world news.
These folks were filming for the European Space Agency? The cameramen couldn't keep either camera on the rocket. Couldn't the ESA have found professionals to take its movies?
It appeared that the observers were shielded from the blast by some buildings. One of the cameras appeared to have been stationed outside of an ordinary office building. The building didn't appear to have been designed for blast resistence at all, so they must have been a fairly long distance from the launch site."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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You're right, it was an unmanned flight. At least two of the cameras were ESA. Not sure about the first one. I don't know whether an official ESA video would have been released to the net...
The observers would have been pretty close to the launch. 2-3 miles is my guess.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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4 miles? Sounds a little excessive an estimateOriginally posted by DanS
If a Saturn V had done something similar, a 4 mile radius would have been obliterated.Comment
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If a Saturn V had done something similar, a 4 mile radius would have been obliterated.
Horse****.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Damnit, beaten to the punch by Zylka12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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I get that the total chemical energy contained in the propellants of a SaturnV is something less than the equivalent of 10 kt TNT
Given that the range of lethality for the 20 kt TNT equivalent Hiroshima blast was something like 1 mile, your figure is overstated...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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jeezus christ! each saturn V packed and used half the energy of a nuclear bomb?Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I get that the total chemical energy contained in the propellants of a SaturnV is something less than the equivalent of 10 kt TNT
Given that the range of lethality for the 20 kt TNT equivalent Hiroshima blast was something like 1 mile, your figure is overstated...Comment
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Probably more like 1/3
10 kt is a slight overestimate, I think
It shouldn't really be surprising; at launch, the Saturn V weighed over 6000 tons, most of which was fuel and oxidizer...
EDIT: actually, you should cut my previous estimates in half. Saturn V weighed ~3000 tons. The heat of combustion of its major fuel component (RP-1, a highly-refined kerosene) is slightly more than 3 times that of TNT. However, RP-1 requires an oxidizer in the ratio 2.25 to 1 or so, giving the Saturn V overall approximately the same chemical energy density as TNT. So call it 3 kt TNT equivalent = 1/6 of Hiroshima. Lethality range scales as something like E^1/2, meaning that you would probably have survived a Saturn V crash-and-burn from half a mile. You wouldn't have been very happy though. 1st-2nd degree burns over every exposed surface. Blindness (possibly temporary; depends how quickly you managed to close your eyes)Last edited by KrazyHorse; March 13, 2006, 03:45.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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That was amazing to watch.
Althought the commentary from the last guy filming sounded more like it was coming from a novice actor in need of some serious directing. It was almost as bad as the launch attempt itself.Comment
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