How many Civs are left?

[Jon Miller]

How about this:

Mideastern:
Arab
Eastern:
Indian
Asian:
Chinese
Japanese (?)
Western:
Continental
Spanish (good call)
Anglo
Slav

JM

[Jon Miller]

Basically I am thinking to use european (instead of Western)

so it would be
European:
Continental
Spanish (mostly in S America)
Anglo
Slav

with Continental and Anglo being further related by being 'Western' Civs

(spanish isn't included because it has more native influences, and slav has a different background)

JM

[Sandman]

Don't the clash of civilizations types find it a bit odd that the bloodiest conflicts are invariably within 'civilizations'?

[notyoueither]

Practice makes perfect.

[Q Classic]

Eastern:
Indian

South Asian. It's Eastern only in respect to, say, the Middle East and Europe; there's still a good portion of the earth further East.

Asian:
Chinese
Japanese (?)

Honestly, I wouldn't separate these two. They're different flavors of the same basic thing.

[Jon Miller]

That is sort of what I thought.

Korean, Chinese, and Japanese are all too closely related. Although I know I am stepping on someones toes.

Does anyone (knowing asia better than I) care to point other Civs from Asia (which are major..)

We can call India South Asia.

Actually, there is probably an Afgan/Persia/Pakistani civ still in existance that is different than Arab (we can label this was as eastern).

JM

[Jon Miller]

So

MidEastern:
Arab (Muslim)
Eastern:
Paki/Afgan/Persia (Muslim)
South Asian:
Indian (Hindu)
Asian:
Chinese (Bhuddist/Atheist)
European:
Anglo (Christian) - Dominent in N. America and Australia
Spanish (Christian:Cath) - mostly in S. America
Slav(Christian:Orth/Athiest)
Continental(Christian/Athiest)
African:
(strong Continental and Arab ties)
(native?)

While Isreal is definitely a Civ, they aren't that big really.. also, I removed the Christian:Prot because the areas where it dominates others also dominate (Atheism and Christian:Cath mostly).

JM

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
Korean, Chinese, and Japanese are all too closely related. Although I know I am stepping on someones toes.

Not sure about Korean, Q^3, Bosh or Seeker probably knows more. Though to me Chinese and Japanese cultures are distinct enough to be two separate ones. For example, Japanese culture have lots of rituals (e.g. Sumo). Another example, the Chinese is one of the most commercial ethnic groups (the other two being Italian and Jewish) - you see Chinese running businesses all over the globe.

Or course when I was in the US it seemed like all the fruit stores were run by Koreans

[Jon Miller]

Korean is like a combo of Chinese and Japanese, from what I have seen.

But with more meat.

JM

[Q Classic]

East Asian:

Honestly, while Japanese, Korean, and Chinese are all quite distinct, they're all varieties on the same similar vein of thought.

Each is dominated by Confucian, Buddhist, and Daoist teachings; where individualism isn't exactly trumpeted, and filial piety is much more strongly emphasized.

The reason that I'd mux them together is in a similar vein that you're muxing the Continental Europeans together. Germans, Italians, Greeks, French and Scandinavians are all quite distinct; yet like different varieties of wine, they're all in the larger scheme, quite similar.

Such is the way with CJK: Baijiu, Soju, and Sake--different varietals on the same vine.

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As far as Korean being a "combo"--not quite. There was some old story of things falling away from the center, the Middle Kingdom, but in actuality the cultures that arose were quite... unique. Korea took a far more conservative, isolationist outlook than China, ending with a perfectly static Confucian state at the end of the 19th Century; Japan, on the other hand, took a more combative, violent path, ending with a much more vibrant, open state at the end of the 19th. China, on the other hand, by the end of the 19th, was the one "in between". Dominated by foreign powers, it was open and vibrant, yet the leadership was struggling for a conservative future.

Korean civilization is far from a "combo".

[Jon Miller]

(I was mostly referencing the food)

JM

[Q Classic]

If it's food, I still fail to see the combo--Chinese tends to be very sauce-heavy with lots of meats; Japanese tends to be heavily fried/raw with more fish than land meat; and Korean tends to be sauteed and marinated, as well as a good deal spicier.

[Sandman]

Are the Mongolians part of East Asian civilization?

[Az]

I always considered them to be barbarians.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Spiffor
And I didn't want to get permabanned by Markos

He's Makedonian really