Radical Islamist vs. Hinduism : The battle rages on . . . .

[Dr Strangelove]

My condolences aneeshm, let's hope this isn't the beginning of a campaign. Let's also hope that the response of the Hindu public will be restrained. More than likely someone wants to reverse the current improvement in relationships between Pakistan and India.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by binTravkin


Good, peace loving Indian people and the humanitarian government of theirs..

Akhem akhem.. sikh genocide.. akhem akhem..

Nonsense . The operation to crush the khalistani movement was spearhended by a Sikh ( KPS Gill ) . Why would be perpetrate a genocide on his own people ?

Originally posted by binTravkin

aneeshm, I strongly suggest you stop promoting your ultra-nationalist views here.

As far as I know , I have not expressed any ultra-nationalist views .

Originally posted by binTravkin

Whilst I understand this is OT, there are still some rules to be obeyed, even if not written.
You're getting nowhere with this.

Where , pray , would I want to go , and with what ?

Originally posted by binTravkin

You might want to read about sikh genocide and Khalistani movement in India, even Wiki has it in detail if you're lazy to search for more.
This quote should give an idea:

That wiki article was marked controversial , and I assume was written by a khalistani , given its tone . Give me an unbiased source that I can trust ( and a site with a name like "sikhgenocide" obviously does not count ) . Let us not forget that this whole thing was finally sorted out by a Sikh , not anyone else .

Khalistan , the movement , eventually deteriorated into Bhindranwale instituting a reign of terror in Punjab , extorting money from the people , and fortifying himself in the golden temple , assuimng that the Indian authorities would not attack a Sikh holy place . The Indian authorities , on realising that it needed to take out Bhindranwale to end the problem , were forced , again under the command of this same Sikh , to attack the temple and kill Bhindranwale . He was a terrorist - and I think we all know what is the best thing to do to terrorists .


And by the way - you have absolutely not idea about the situation of the ground , do you ? Living in India , I know that the problem is solved . There is no Hindu animosity towards the Sikha , nor is there any Sikh animosity towards Hindus . Punjab is just like any other state . The only place Khalistan exists is in a few internet sites . It has no resonance with the people of Punjab any longer .



And just FYI - the current prime minister of the country is a Sikh . The President is a Muslim . And I support both of them ( and so do all the other people I know ) . Could such a political decision have been possible without the khalistan problem having been satisfactorily resolved ?

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

My condolences aneeshm, let's hope this isn't the beginning of a campaign.

Unfortuantely , the terrorists have already shown that they will attack soft targets . First the Akshardham temple , then a unversity in Bangalore , then the diwali bombings , then this .

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

Let's also hope that the response of the Hindu public will be restrained.

You hope that the response of the Hindu public will be restrained . I hope that there will be a response at all . Hindus are so utterly apathetic towards their own interests that I despair of anyone ever respongind coherently to anything of this sort . Till now , there has been no response from the Hindus ( but Muslim leaders have been quick to condemn it , thankfully ) .

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

More than likely someone wants to reverse the current improvement in relationships between Pakistan and India.

Won't happen . What India and Pakistan need are people-to-people contacts , specially in Kashmir .

[binTravkin]

As far as I know , I have not expressed any ultra-nationalist views .

quote by you

How was the Khalistani movement crushed ? By a ruthless operation . What happened ? The problem was solved .

Originally posted by aneeshm(..)blah blah blah(..)

So you think US Department of State has no idea either, nor has people in India (like some stupid newspapers ), nor do anyone else, but you..

In 1994, the United States Department of State reported that the Indian government had paid out more than 41,000 cash bounties to police officers for killing Sikhs. That same year, the Indian newspaper Hitavada reported that the Indian government paid about $1.5 billion to the late governor of Punjab, Surendra Nath, to foment and support terrorist activity in Punjab and in Kashmir.

Umm, my eyes hurting from rolling..

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by binTravkin

quote by you

A statement of fact does not an ultra-nationalist make . . . .

Originally posted by binTravkin


So you think US Department of State has no idea either, nor has people in India (like some stupid newspapers ), nor do anyone else, but you..

I distrust that statistic . Why would a Sikh kill his own people ? It may just be the number of bounties given out to policemen in Punjab , but quoted by the author of the Wiki article as bounties for killing Sikhs .

Originally posted by binTravkin



Umm, my eyes hurting from rolling..

Unless you address the points I made , there is no point in talking to you at all . When you dismiss the other party's points as "blah" , you don't hold much credibility .

[Heresson]

Re: Radical Islamist vs. Hinduism : The battle rages on . . . .

Originally posted by aneeshm
There has been a terrorist attack on a Hindu temple by Islamists , in the world's oldest city , Varanasi .

The world's oldest city is Damascus!

[Odin]

Originally posted by Seeker
I thought the worlds oldest city was Jericho??

[Az]

The definition of city is rather flimsy, anyway. The definition of city used to define Jericho as the first city, would leave all of the cities of today out of it. ( walled). I'd leave the definition of a town to the existance of stone homes, and major communal/congregational buildings, such as temples, schools, or whatever.

[aneeshm]

Correction - Varanasi is the world's longest-inhabited city .

[Imran Siddiqui]

As far as I know , I have not expressed any ultra-nationalist views .

Relevant part bolded. You are like India's Slowwhand

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by aneeshm
Correction - Varanasi is the world's longest-inhabited city .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerico

Jericho has a population of approximately 19,000.[1] It is believed to be the oldest continuously inhabited settlement in the world.

Interestingly enough, Varanasi's article on Wikipedia has no mentions to a claim of oldest or longest inhabited city.

[aneeshm]

Hmm . . . then blame the newsreader , not me . He was the guy who said Varanasi was the world's oldest city .

[chequita guevara]

The world's oldest city is Jerico.

[Pekka]

The horns of Jericho, the horns of Jericho, the horns of Jericho...

keep on dancing keep on dancing.. yeah!"

Muzlimz vs the rest 10000-3.Oops? Was that bigoted to say it out loud? Hey. I'm not judging anyone, buttwipes are in every team. I'm just keeping the scorecard.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by aneeshm

Won't happen . What India and Pakistan need are people-to-people contacts , specially in Kashmir .

I'm not sure that I understand what you're saying here. You're advocating a reprisal attack on Pakistani territory, yet you say that the current degree of raproachment between Pakistan and India will not be affected. I assure you that if the Indian Air Force bombs the portion of Kashmir under Pakistan control it will affect relationships, particularily if you do not have truly solid proof that these attacks are being launched by the groups stationed in Kashmir. Even if your government did have the solid proof it would be better to bring the evidence before the international community and the government of Pakistan first.