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  • #16
    I knew an engineer who did R&D and chip design for Motorola in Tel Aviv. His eventual goal was to finish his Masters degree and get a job in Silicon Valley.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Asher
      Any job exported to Israel, India, or Kentucky isn't worth my time.
      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

      I never thought of it in those terms but yeah alot of jobs get moved to Kentucky and Tennessee nowadays!



      One more note is that Intel just opened up shop in Vietnam.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by VetLegion
        In my country there's lot of talk about attracting foreign investment, but we fail miserably. So I'm a little jealous

        Btw. how much of Israel is within Katjusa range if seen from Lebanon or Gaza? I'm surprised you get any FDI at all.
        You guys were getting an insane amount of foreign investment in the late 1990s.

        What happened with that? Did all the money dry up?

        Wait I was assuming you were in Turkey? Where are you Croatia?
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        • #19
          I knew an engineer who did R&D and chip design for Motorola in Tel Aviv. His eventual goal was to finish his Masters degree and get a job in Silicon Valley.

          morons. start ups will pay you just as well here, and the cost of living is way lower.
          urgh.NSFW

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          • #20
            for Intel.
            I know that Intel has no idea from where it will get 1500 good electronics engineers, which means that the salaries are going to rise even more. Ahhh... If there was no army. :/
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            • #21
              Asher = opinionated git.
              Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
              Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Ted Striker
                I never thought of it in those terms but yeah alot of jobs get moved to Kentucky and Tennessee nowadays!

                One more note is that Intel just opened up shop in Vietnam.
                A lot of auto manufacturing jobs have gotten relocated to the south since it is cheaper then the north plus there aren't established unions so it is easier for the companies to stay non-union. Also companies like Intel end up opening facilities all over the world
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Az
                  I knew an engineer who did R&D and chip design for Motorola in Tel Aviv. His eventual goal was to finish his Masters degree and get a job in Silicon Valley.

                  morons. start ups will pay you just as well here, and the cost of living is way lower.
                  The big pull of Silicon Valley is that you get stock options and that you associate yourself with one of the world's most dynamic areas so you are more likely to get in on the next big thing.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #24
                    Israel is #2 origin of NASDAQ companies, #1 being US.
                    Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                    Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                    Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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                    • #25
                      Yes, Israel has a strong knowledge based economy.

                      Interesting thing is that Israel started out as some sort of socialist country, and to the best of my knowledge still has strong government intervention in the economy.

                      So, drawing on the Israel example, can we conclude that:

                      1) country being in a warzone isn't an impediment to FDI if other factors are favourable

                      2) strong state doesn't necessarily stiffle inovation

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                      • #26
                        The thing is, like in most countries with a significant IT presence, the state doesn't actually intervene in the IT sector itself.
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                        • #27
                          The thing is, like in most countries with a significant IT presence, the state doesn't actually intervene in the IT sector itself.


                          QFT.

                          Also, contrary to the impression one might get from CNN, Israel is not really a warzone. Things do blow up here and there, but even at the worst times the most significant effects on the vast majority of the population that is not affected directly by terror are largely psychological.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by VetLegion
                            Yes, Israel has a strong knowledge based economy.

                            Interesting thing is that Israel started out as some sort of socialist country, and to the best of my knowledge still has strong government intervention in the economy.

                            So, drawing on the Israel example, can we conclude that:

                            1) country being in a warzone isn't an impediment to FDI if other factors are favourable

                            2) strong state doesn't necessarily stiffle inovation
                            It doesn't hurt to get massive subsidies from other countries either.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #29
                              country being in a warzone isn't an impediment to

                              On the contrary.

                              A huge percentage of original Israeli technology companies are started by, and manned by people who served in different technological units in the IDF.

                              As such, they immediately gain experience with new technologies, huge projects, very high demands and very low budgets. All that contributing to the need for innovation.

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                              • #30
                                The thing is, like in most countries with a significant IT presence, the state doesn't actually intervene in the IT sector itself.


                                QFT.


                                It does have some subsidies going, many hi-tech industrial hubs have the state as chief developer of real-estate, and organizer of industrial research groups (hamamot technologiot) and a couple of the companies started as owned by the government or the labor unions ( Tadiran ). It's not "intervention", it's investment and assistance. And, of course, where did they founders of this industry get their knowledge? at the government universities and the army.


                                It doesn't hurt to get massive subsidies from other countries either.

                                I wish they would just drop your assistance. It's like you give us a bunch of stuff ( that YOU produced - you know it's a pork project for YOUR defence contractors ) and you own us.
                                urgh.NSFW

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