Canada's Private Clinics Surge as Public System Falters

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


So, our system of free medicine allows them to use more 'free' services?

No, they are simply more willing to spend time and money on health problems.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Actually, StatsCan says that men get injured about 40% more often than women, but who am I to argue with numbers out of asses.

No, what StatsCan says is that men report having been injured at a rate 40% higher than that of women.



That's like those measurements of obesity which rely on self-reporting.

[notyoueither]

                    Injuries        Injuries         No
                     sought       did not seek    Injuries
        Total       medical   %     medical  %              %
Males   12,705,415 1,264,947 10.0   698,407 5.5  10,730,267 84.5
Females 13,096,304   944,776  7.2   527,650 4.0  11,615,838 88.7

I'm sure there are a large number of men out there who don't realise that they have been injured.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


No, they are simply more willing to spend time and money on health problems.

And maybe a lot more willing when they aren't actually spending their money?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Actually, StatsCan says that men get injured about 40% more often than women, but who am I to argue with numbers out of asses.

Surrealism

[notyoueither]

When you look at it, women are more likely to go without treatment.

Sexist, macho, sterotypes.

[Agathon]

The conventional wisdom, for what it is worth is that women access health care a lot more under 40 and men over 40.

If you wanted to completely privatize the system NYE, you would find that women would probably be disadvantaged, since they need health care more when they are less able to pay for it.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither

                    Injuries        Injuries         No
                     sought       did not seek    Injuries
        Total       medical   %     medical  %              %
Males   12,705,415 1,264,947 10.0   698,407 5.5  10,730,267 84.5
Females 13,096,304   944,776  7.2   527,650 4.0  11,615,838 88.7

I'm sure there are a large number of men out there who don't realise that they have been injured.

It has nothing to do with consciousness and everything to do with definition.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
When you look at it, women are more likely to go without treatment.

Sexist, macho, sterotypes.

Every objective measure shows men being injured at a rate more than twice as high as women. Subjective measures show less disparity.

[notyoueither]

Except StatsCan. You think they know **** about statistics and subjective measures?

[KrazyHorse]

They know everything I know about it. Which is why they're quite careful to state how their data was arrived at.

You would do well in the future to take that into consideration when quoting numbers

StatsCan knows that self-reporting is subjective. Which is why they put the question right up front.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Agathon
The conventional wisdom, for what it is worth is that women access health care a lot more under 40 and men over 40.

If you wanted to completely privatize the system NYE, you would find that women would probably be disadvantaged, since they need health care more when they are less able to pay for it.

There's a point, and a good reason not to completely privatise the system. That may be why nobody is saying go totally private.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
They know everything I know about it. Which is why they're quite careful to state how their data was arrived at.

You would do well in the future to take that into consideration when quoting numbers

StatsCan knows that self-reporting is subjective. Which is why they put the question right up front.

I'm sure there's a large number of men wandering around, missing a limb, and saying 'tis nothing.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I'm sure there's a large number of men wandering around, missing a limb, and saying 'tis nothing.

But of course, you have a men's magazine on your side.

I should concede, right?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I'm sure there's a large number of men wandering around, missing a limb, and saying 'tis nothing.

No, but there's a large number of men walking around with a bad bruise on their knee they aren't calling an injury but which women are.