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    Get ready to be really pissed off......

    I saw this on another web site and I'm not certain if the numbers add up but it sounds reasonable. What do you folks think? Is this for real?

    The White House is going to waive $ 7 billion in oil and gas royalties that were extracted from public land. No big surprise, right?

    Well, they are advocating *right now* the sell-off of our public lands because they are "out of money". The public land sell off would earn $1 billion, which the White House says they "desperately" need. Here's the kicker - this oil and gas that was extracted (and to be royalty free) came from the SAME NATIONAL FOREST AND BLM lands they now want to sell off to make money!!!! HUH??????

    They cut the land and water conservation fund by 40%, and cut the national park budget by 89$ million.

    WTF is going on?
    I'm not certain about the "selling off" of public land but I think he is refering to the new rules allowing private companies to increase logging, ranching, and mining on public lands as well as the new rules which make it easier for companies to buy concessions to sell package tours or build hotels on public lands. It does seem outragous if the administration did indeed wave $7 billion in royalties but then slashed the PArk Service's and the BLM's budgets. Especially since the increased logging and sales of concessions was claimed to be necissary because both agencies were out of cash. If 5-6 times the cost of the cuts were given away in the form of waved royalties from the explotation of public resources then that is just obsene.
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  • #2
    Does not piss me off, at all.
    I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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    • #3
      Both Bush and Tattila piss me off.

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      • #4
        I wish I had not opened this thread. I have no one to blame but myself.

        I'll just go cool off now.
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        • #5
          It does seem outragous if the administration did indeed wave $7 billion in royalties
          That was the previous president, not this one. And the thought was to encourage deep sea drilling in the Gulf, not drilling on federal lands.

          Blame that ****** Clinton, if you want to get angry about it.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            CLINTON? NO WAY! YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A STUPID MORONIC REPUG TRYING TO DISGRACE THE HOLY NAME OF CLINTON WITH YOUR VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!!

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            • #7
              Here is the news article from the New York Times (in case anyone is interested):

              U.S. Has Royalty Plan to Give Windfall to Oil Companies (Published 2006)
              http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14oil.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
              The federal government is on the verge of one of the biggest giveaways of oil and gas in American history, worth an estimated $7 billion over five years. New projections, buried in the Interior Department's just-published budget plan, anticipate that the government will let companies pump about $65 billion worth of oil and natural gas from federal territory over the next five years without paying any royalties to the government.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by StarLightDeath
                CLINTON? NO WAY! YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A STUPID MORONIC REPUG TRYING TO DISGRACE THE HOLY NAME OF CLINTON WITH YOUR VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!!
                Easy StarLight! Did someone piss in your wheaties this morning?
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                • #9
                  Sorry, I was just trying to fit in with the rest of Apolyton. What with the birthday threads and all, I really feel inferior because I'm not part of the society on here. In fact, I think we need to stop the birthday threads because I don't celebrate birthdays and seeing these on here it is clear the site endorses them. There needs to be a clear separation between birthdays and the Apolyton website. The public display and celebration of birthdays is coercive and I feel I am trying to be converted.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wittlich


                    Easy StarLight! Did someone piss in your wheaties this morning?
                    One can only hope.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      One can only hope.
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                      • #12
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DanS

                          That was the previous president, not this one. And the thought was to encourage deep sea drilling in the Gulf, not drilling on federal lands.

                          Blame that ****** Clinton, if you want to get angry about it.
                          The New York Times article says this is a new policy which will cover this year until 2011. The link has already been provided.

                          Edit: Ahh, it is an extension of a 1996 law which the Republicans pushed through when they got a majority. It does beg the question of why we are selling off land for $1 billion because "we desperately need the money" yet we are waiving $7 billion in oil royalties. With most oil companies already making record profits it doesn't seem like they need subsidies to keep going. The profit margins are already large enough to encourage just about everyone in the oil business to be drilling flat out.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #14
                            "It was Congress's intent," Mr. Pombo said in an interview on Friday, "that if oil was at $10 a barrel, there should be royalty relief so companies could have some kind of incentive to invest capital. But at $70 a barrel, don't expect royalty relief."
                            Pombo, who is in all other ways a complete and utter asshat, happens to be right about this one. At $70 per barrel the poor little oil companies hardly need relief from royalties and instead should be paying the full amount.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #15
                              In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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