ID card bill passes

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Spiffor
What I'm seeing in the west today are:
- Increasing leeway given to domestic espionage
- Increasing leeway given to the prosecution, with easier police procedures
- Increased leeway given to police to do controls and checks.

Oh, sure, we're far from being totalitarian yet. But the current trend doesn't look good at all. And I'm not talking in "ifs" here, but in a very real trend that has become extremely clear since Sept. 11 in the whole west, and which had its roots already in place in Europe before (can't tell for the US).

I don't see anything indicative of the trend stopping.

Don't forget the torture. When you add it all up, it does look quite worrying. The Tyrant's Toolkit, all ready to use...

[Dauphin]

Government plans to make all passport applicants also have an ID card have been defeated in the Lords.

Peers voted by a majority of 61 to overturn the proposal - backed by MPs last month - for a second time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4778142.stm

[Sandman]

It's incredible that a bunch of appointees, bishops and aristocrats have become the foremost defenders of UK freedoms. They never used to be this active.

[C0ckney]

they've never had to be before...

[Provost Harrison]

It's the case more often than you'd think...sometimes they seem to be the only sanity in the Houses of Parliament...which is ironic considering most of them are so old they are probably insane

[Spiffor]

Gah! I find myself in agreement with the house of lords! :vomit:

Today or yesterday, the French senate also did something I support. WHat is the world coming to?

[Imran Siddiqui]

House of Lords

[TheStinger]

When the house of Lords was mainly heridetary they didn't like to use their powers to block laws because they were afraid they would be srtipped of their authority. Now that nearly all the heridetaries have gone they don't have the same worries.

Oh the irony