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**MrFun** · February 16, 2006, 16:35

Yep -- circuit parties is the only way that all gay people in all parts of the world live.

**Flubber** · February 16, 2006, 16:37

Originally posted by MrFun
Yep -- circuit parties is the only way that all gay people in all parts of the world live.

Seriously what EXACTLY is a circuit party? Is it , as I presumed, some form of swinger party?

Wouldn't that be like doing a population survey on alcoholism at a bar ??

**MrFun** · February 16, 2006, 16:54

You're right with the comparison to a swinger party.

**MrFun** · February 16, 2006, 17:00

Last night I had cabin fever, so I went to a local gay bar to chill out and socialize.

All the gay guys who were there are unique individuals -- not one of them lives their life in exactly the same way as the guy sitting or standing next to him.

This notion of a monolithic gay lifestyle just doesn't make sense to me.

**joncha** · February 16, 2006, 17:04

That's just a myth perpetuated by the monolithic gay conspiracy.

**Flubber** · February 16, 2006, 17:05

Originally posted by MrFun
You're right with the comparison to a swinger party.

wow I've heard of unbalanced sampling before but thats outrageous.

**Ming** · February 16, 2006, 17:12

Article quote Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

Gay men's sexual practices appear to be consistent with the concept of "monogamy without fidelity." Astudy of gay men attending circuit parties showed that 46 percent were coupled, that is, they claimed to have a "primary partner." Twenty-seven percent of the men with primary partners "had multiple sex partners (oral or anal) during their most recent circuit party weekend . . . ." For gay men, sex outside the primary relationship is ubiquitous even during the first year. Gay men reportedly have sex with someone other than their partner in 66 percent of relationships within the first year, rising to approximately 90 percent if the relationship endures over five years. And the average gay or lesbian relationship is short lived. In one study, only 15 percent of gay men and 17.3 percent of lesbians had relationships that lasted more than three years. Thus, the studies reflect very little long-term monogamy in GLB relationships.

Hmmmm... I wonder how this would compare to non married couples... Because think of it. "Maybe" the fact that people are "married" lowers the chance that you will stray from your partner (I said lower, not stop it)... so... maybe the fact that marriage is denied to gays is a primary cause why these types of percentages exist... and MAYBE if gays were allowed to "officially get married" we would see numbers that were compatable with heterosexual married couples

I've heard BK state on many occassions that the simple fact of marriage forces people to work through their issues instead of walking away from the problems... Gays aren't offered that "crutch" at the moment

**Arrian** · February 16, 2006, 17:30

I can't believe Ben actually posted that "study." It's absurd on its face due to the selective sampling (doing a study on alcoholism in a bar

that's good!), and everyone else saw it instantly.

This is why I mock your sources so often, Ben. This is why I note when you cite "studies" by religious wackos.

-Arrian

edit: wow, I'm clearly fired up. I'm posting from home. Granted, I had a few minutes to kill, but still, this is rare.

**Stuie** · February 16, 2006, 19:21

Originally posted by Arrian
"A study of gay men attending circuit parties."

Yeah, no sample problems there! Clearly a representative sample of gay people!

-Arrian

Seriously - how about we do a study of straight men attending "swinger" parties.

**Flubber** · February 16, 2006, 19:31

Originally posted by Stuie

Seriously - how about we do a study of straight men attending "swinger" parties.

Yup -- almost all of them would have a "primary partner"-- heck my understanding is that a single man is usually not even welcome

**Jon Miller** · February 16, 2006, 21:12

is true I think

although 3 somes are fine with single guys

JM

**Jon Miller** · February 16, 2006, 21:13

Originally posted by Ming

Hmmmm... I wonder how this would compare to non married couples... Because think of it. "Maybe" the fact that people are "married" lowers the chance that you will stray from your partner (I said lower, not stop it)... so... maybe the fact that marriage is denied to gays is a primary cause why these types of percentages exist... and MAYBE if gays were allowed to "officially get married" we would see numbers that were compatable with heterosexual married couples

I've heard BK state on many occassions that the simple fact of marriage forces people to work through their issues instead of walking away from the problems... Gays aren't offered that "crutch" at the moment

Wow, I agree with a Ming post. I am shocked.

JM

**Berzerker** · February 16, 2006, 21:22

Ben, I know what it's like herding us cats so we can save our evolution debate for another time

**Berzerker** · February 16, 2006, 21:43

Allowing gay marriage will have zero impact on how many babies are made, Ben.

You mean gay marriage would not increase fidelity? I imagine many babies do have gays and bi-sexuals as fathers

**Rufus T. Firefly** · February 16, 2006, 21:45

Originally posted by Berzerker
Ben, I know what it's like herding us cats so we can save our evolution debate for another time

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