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    Thank God I bought Civ II which eventually bought me to this site which persuaded me to try Firefox. I wuvvy you all


    For those who cannot be arsed to read this article, basically you only need to know this quote...

    Internet Explorer users can be as much as 21 times more likely to end up with a spyware-infected PC than people who go online with Mozilla's Firefox browser, academic researchers from Microsoft's backyard said in a recently published paper.
    The rest is basically all about how researchers came up with that.

    Spyware Barely Touches Firefox

    By Gregg Keizer
    TechWeb.comThu Feb 9, 2:15 PM ET

    Internet Explorer users can be as much as 21 times more likely to end up with a spyware-infected PC than people who go online with Mozilla's Firefox browser, academic researchers from Microsoft's backyard said in a recently published paper.

    "We can't say whether Firefox is a safer browser or not," said Henry Levy, one of the two University of Washington professors who, along with a pair of graduate students, created Web crawlers to scour the Internet for spyware in several 2005 forays. "But we can say that users will have a safer experience [surfing] with Firefox."

    In May and October, Levy and colleague Steven Gribble sent their crawlers to 45,000 Web sites, cataloged the executable files found, and tested malicious sites' effectiveness by exposing unpatched versions of Internet Explorer and Firefox to "drive-by downloads." That's the term for the hacker practice of using browser vulnerabilities to install software, sometimes surreptitiously, sometimes not.

    "We can't say IE is any less safe," explained Levy, "because we choose to use an unpatched version [of each browser.] We were trying to understand the number of [spyware] threats, so if we used unpatched browsers then we would see more threats."

    Levy and Gribble, along with graduate students Alexander Moshchuk and Tanya Bragin, set up IE in two configurations -- one where it behaved as if the user had given permission for all downloads, the other as if the user refused all download permission -- to track the number of successful spyware installations.

    During Levy's and Gribble's most recent crawl of October 2005, 1.6 percent of the domains infected the first IE configuration, the one mimicking a naïve user blithely clicking 'Yes;' about a third as many domains (0.6 percent) did drive-by downloads by planting spyware even when the user rejected the installations.

    "These numbers may not sound like much," said Gribble, "but consider the number of domains on the Web."

    "You definitely want to have all the patches [installed] for Internet Explorer," added Levy.

    In the same kind of configurations, Firefox survived relatively unscathed. Only .09 percent of domains infected the Mozilla Corp. browser when it was set, like IE, to act as if the user clicked through security dialogs; no domain managed to infect the Firefox-equipped PC in a drive-by download attack.

    Compare those figures, and it seems that IE users who haven't patched their browser are 21 times more likely to have a spyware attack executed -- if not necessarily succeed -- against their machine.

    Most of the exploits that leveraged IE vulnerabilities to plant spyware were based on ActiveX and JavaScript, said Gribble. Those two technologies have taken the blame for many of IE problems. In fact, Firefox boosters often point to their browser's lack of support for ActiveX as a big reason why its security claims are legit.

    Levy and Gribble didn't set out to verify that, but they did note that the few successful spyware attacks on Firefox were made by Java applets; all, however, required the user's consent to succeed.

    Microsoft's made a point to stress that Internet Explorer 7, which just went into open beta for Windows XP, tightens up ActiveX controls by disabling nearly all those already installed. IE 7 then alerts the user and requires consent before it will run an in-place control.

    Good thing, because one of the research's most startling conclusions was the number of spyware-infected sites. One out of every 20 executable files on Web sites is spyware, and 1 in 25 domains contain at least one piece of spyware waiting for victims.

    "If these numbers are even close to representative for Web sites frequented by users," the paper concluded, "it is not surprising that spyware continues to be of major concern."

    The moral, said Levy, is: "If you browse, you're eventually going to get hit with a spyware attack."
    Who is Barinthus?

  • #2
    Ohohhh, Asher are going for a fit.

    Only problem with firefox is those sites that are using MS specialities instead of standards.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

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    • #3
      Asher uses Firefox.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        Asher uses Firefox.
        I thought you were busy reading - though, that belongs in another thread.
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

        Steven Weinberg

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BlackCat
          Ohohhh, Asher are going for a fit.
          Honestly, BlackCat, you have no idea what you're talking about in any thread you post in.

          You are the Danish Urban Ranger.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Asher
            Honestly, BlackCat, you have no idea what you're talking about in any thread you post in.

            You are the Danish Urban Ranger.
            Woohoo, another bite.
            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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            • #7
              By a mac dude, no spyware evar!!!
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #8
                What do you mean you have to *buy* something to get rid of spyware for evar ?
                This is Shireroth, and Giant Squid will brutally murder me if I ever remove this link from my signature | In the end it won't be love that saves us, it will be mathematics | So many people have this concept of God the Avenger. I see God as the ultimate sense of humor -- SlowwHand

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                • #9
                  Only problem, when I surf around couple of porn-sites, FF starts to require more and more memory... My record being slightly over 1GB before restart of FF.
                  I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Agathon
                    By a mac dude, no spyware evar!!!
                    And no games evar!!!
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #11
                      The stereotypes, they are being a-flinged...
                      This is Shireroth, and Giant Squid will brutally murder me if I ever remove this link from my signature | In the end it won't be love that saves us, it will be mathematics | So many people have this concept of God the Avenger. I see God as the ultimate sense of humor -- SlowwHand

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                      • #12
                        So how does Civ4 run on a Mac then?
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • #13
                          I don't think CIV4 has ever crashed on Mac.
                          I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                            So how does Civ4 run on a Mac then?
                            Should be out in a couple of months, I think.

                            If you want to play games, buy a console.
                            Only feebs vote.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Agathon


                              Should be out in a couple of months, I think.

                              If you want to play games, buy a console.
                              'months', 'think'? So it could be years in fact?

                              And why have an overpriced computer and a games console, when you can have a PC? Besides, the variety of games you get on the console really aren't to my cerebral tastes
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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