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  • #31
    Originally posted by C0ckney


    you sometimes hear about people going over to india for various elective treatments (like hip replacements and eye surgery) that are subject to waiting lists and cost a lot privately here. however even though these seem relatively cheap, i would imagine that they are out of reach of average indian.
    Do you wan't to hear something scary ? Our left wing opposition is boiling with anger because the government has decided that if people can't be treated in reasonable time (3 months), then they are forced to be treated on private hospitals Even worse, the bill are paid by the public.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Provost Harrison
      But hell Doc, it pays for tax breaks for the rich!
      Eh.. what? Do you know anything about the projected costs of the Medicaid perscription program? It definetly isn't going to cost the government less overall (in fact, much, much more)
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BlackCat
        Do you wan't to hear something scary ? Our left wing opposition is boiling with anger because the government has decided that if people can't be treated in reasonable time (3 months), then they are forced to be treated on private hospitals Even worse, the bill are paid by the public.
        outrage!

        labour suggested doing something similar (it's been a tory idea for a while now), but have been forced to back off in the face of fierce opposition from left-wing MPs 'privatisation by the back door' being a favourite war-cry.
        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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        • #34
          Originally posted by C0ckney


          outrage!

          labour suggested doing something similar (it's been a tory idea for a while now), but have been forced to back off in the face of fierce opposition from left-wing MPs 'privatisation by the back door' being a favourite war-cry.
          That is precisely the same arguments our leftwing is using. But you haven't heard the worst - the gov has actually had the audacity to demand that the system should become efficient
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • #35


            Oh NOES! People who have to wait 3 months have another option!!
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


              Oh NOES! People who have to wait 3 months have another option!!
              Nah, you misunderstand me - there has always been an option to be treated earlier, but then you have to pay the bill.

              The system though have a big flaw - the person described in the OP would have been treated by docs and even those unnessecary morphine would have been given. Well, guess that no system is perfect.



              Edit : dang, I think I might be misinterpreted.You don't have to wait tree months before the second option. It's more like 'if you can't be treated inside a three month period by the system, then system are obliged to send patients to private hospitals'.
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

              Steven Weinberg

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BlackCat
                Nah, you misunderstand me - there has always been an option to be treated earlier, but then you have to pay the bill
                No, I understood... but I was mocking C0ckney. It seems a bit cruel to make someone wait over 3 months for a procedure.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #38
                  mocking? way to get sarcasm
                  "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                  "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                  • #39
                    seems like the standard over here!

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                    • #40
                      ::shrug::

                      Didn't seem sarcastic.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                        But hell Doc, it pays for tax breaks for the rich!
                        As Imran said, they are spending the money. America spends more per person than any other country.

                        IIRC, the American government spends the same amount per person as the UK government - but Britain gets a complete service, whereas the Americans don't.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sandman


                          As Imran said, they are spending the money. America spends more per person than any other country.
                          That may be true, but since this poor sob didn't get a cent, other may have gotten more. Somehow I consider this as a problem.
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                          Steven Weinberg

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                          • #43
                            Gotta find the money for those viagra prescriptions somewhere, they aint gonna pay for themselves.

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                            • #44
                              Do you wan't to hear something scary ? Our left wing opposition is boiling with anger because the government has decided that if people can't be treated in reasonable time (3 months), then they are forced to be treated on private hospitals Even worse, the bill are paid by the public.


                              Actually, I know what they are talking about - It IS the government's fault there are waiting lines, after all. THIS is the first and foremost thing to be fixed.
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Az
                                Do you wan't to hear something scary ? Our left wing opposition is boiling with anger because the government has decided that if people can't be treated in reasonable time (3 months), then they are forced to be treated on private hospitals Even worse, the bill are paid by the public.


                                Actually, I know what they are talking about - It IS the government's fault there are waiting lines, after all. THIS is the first and foremost thing to be fixed.
                                Yep, it is of course the gov's responsibility to solve that. Only problem is that those that are in opposition now, was in gov 10 years previous the current, and they didn't do anything to solve the problem.
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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