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    Chavez says Bush worse than Hitler
    Sat Feb 4, 2006 8:49 PM ET
    By Patrick Markey

    CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez told a rally of thousands of supporters on Saturday that U.S. President George W. Bush was worse than Hitler and vowed to buy more arms to defend his nation as their diplomatic relations deteriorated.

    "The imperialist, genocidal, fascist attitude of the U.S. president has no limits. I think Hitler would be like a suckling baby next to George W. Bush," Chavez said from a stage decorated with a huge red image of himself as a young soldier.

    Already frayed ties between the United States and the socialist leader worsened further this week after Chavez expelled a U.S. military attache accused of espionage and the White House responded by ordering out a Venezuelan diplomat.

    Chavez, a retired army paratrooper who often accuses Washington of trying to overthrow him, warned he could shut Venezuelan oil refineries in the United States and sell oil for the U.S. market elsewhere if Washington cuts off ties.

    U.S. officials have made no suggestion they plan to break relations. Washington has repeatedly dismissed Chavez's threats and charges as inflammatory rhetoric aimed at stirring up nationalist sentiment among his poor supporters.

    Washington and Caracas recently locked horns over a U.S. block on sales of Spanish military equipment to Venezuela. The Spanish aircraft contained U.S.-made technology, which requires countries to get Washington's clearance for the sale.

    Chavez, who last year bought helicopters and 100,000 rifles from Russia, said he would seek to buy more arms to defend Venezuela against any attempt to topple his government. U.S. officials say the purchases could destabilize the region as Chavez moves to create a huge military reservist movement.

    "I ask for permission ... to buy another cargo of arms because the gringos want us unarmed. We have to defend our fatherland," he said. "Venezuela needs 1 million well-equipped men and women, and well-armed."

    The Venezuelan leader has put himself at the center of regional opposition to Bush, who he calls "Mr. Danger," while Washington brands Chavez a worrying threat to regional stability and criticizes his alliance with Cuba.

    Flush with cash from high crude prices, Chavez is promoting socialist reforms at home and aggressively challenging U.S. free-market proposals by allying himself with his South American neighbors, as well as Cuba and Iran.

    U.S. officials reject charges the expelled naval attache contacted Venezuelan officers for state secrets. Chavez on Saturday read out e-mails he said were communications between the officers and the U.S. Embassy.

    Since his 1998 election, Chavez has clashed repeatedly with the United States, which he accuses of planning an invasion and backing a brief 2002 coup attempt that he survived with the help of loyal troops.

  • #2
    Does that mean he looses the debate?
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    • #3
      Looses? Was he tied?
      "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
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      • #4
        Well at least it means that Ming should step in and tell everyone to chill.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #5
          It's true. Hitler is dead, and therefore harmless.
          Only feebs vote.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Agathon
            It's true. Hitler is dead, and therefore harmless.
            I declare you worse than Hitler then!
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #7
              You are also worse than Hitler!!!!

              Thread Godwined... let it be closed by Ming. He is worse than Hitler!!!
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #8
                There is also the question about what exactly he needs more weapons for.

                The regular army and reserves consists of around 150,000 men, who presumably already have perfectly functional weapons. You're adding 100,000 AK-47s to this. Especially given the US currently has so many troops tied down in Iraq and Afghanistan, this is quite sufficient to make concerns about fighting an insurgency during an occupation of the country too great to be worth seriously considering invading. There simply is no need for additional small arms.

                A much more likely reason for this move would be to strenthen the militia to protect Chavez if the military decides to arrange a coup, or possibly something more sinsister such as infiltrating Columbia with armed irregulars.
                Last edited by Mordoch; February 6, 2006, 01:32.

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                • #9
                  Chavez may be a moron, but he has a parrot.

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                  • #10
                    They don't need the weapons but it makes nice theater plus having extra weapons laying around means they can arm FARC or any other regional violent leftist group. Bush sucks but he's no Hitler (though he most certainly is an autocrat with little respect for the law).

                    This is 90% grand standing to whip is supporters into a frenzy. Threatening to close refineries in the US is a joke because the government can just nationalize them if they believe a foreign power is attempting to harm the US.
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                    • #11
                      Hitler didn't have a parrot. Bush doesn't have a parrot.

                      Ergo, Bush = Hitler.
                      ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                      • #12
                        Stalin had a parrot -- but then he killed it.
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #13
                          Trotsky tried to save it, but he were too late.
                          ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by joncha
                            Trotsky tried to save it, but he were too late.


                            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                            • #15
                              Well, I suppose Chavez's posturing is to be expected. After all, Rumsfeld said last week that Chavez's rise to power had eerie parallels to Hitler's.

                              Which, of course, goes to show that neither Rumsfeld or Chavez know what the f*ck they're talking about.

                              Hmm. Tell me, why does Venezuela need 1 million armed personnel. That's quite high for a nation that size, isn't it?

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