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  • #46
    GM are selling GMAC for $14bn.

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    General Motors has announced it is to sell a majority stake in its highly profitable financing business to a hedge fund-led group for $14bn (£8bn).

    The struggling car giant had been in talks with Cerberus Capital Management about selling GMAC - which made a $2.8bn profit in 2005 - for weeks.

    GM is trying to raise money to sure up its finances, which have been hurt by weak sales and huge pension costs.

    It also faces huge liabilities from bankrupt car parts firm Delphi.

    GM made a £10bn loss last year and is cutting 30,000 jobs in an effort to make its business more competitive.

    It will raise $7.4bn upfront from the sale of 51% of GMAC to a group including Cerberus, Citigroup and Aozora Bank.

    The deal will also yield a further $6.7bn from car lease and retail assets, which GM will retain, and financing costs over the next three years.

    GM said the deal would be a major step in the company's effort to drag itself back into profitability.

    "This agreement is another important milestone in the turnaround of General Motors," said chief executive Rick Wagoner.

    "It provides significant liquidity to support our North American turnaround plan, finance future GM growth initiatives, strengthen our balance sheet and fund other corporate priorities."

    Some analysts have warned that falling sales and soaring employee pension and healthcare liabilities could force GM into brankruptcy.

    GM also faces potential liabilities from Delphi - the car parts firm its once owned - of up to $12bn.

    Delphi is taking legal action to try and invalidate a host of GM contracts as it seeks to guarantee its survival.


    No amount of money will save them whilst the quality control stays crap. That's the main reason most of the UK motor industry went under and even stupidity isn't enough of an excuse not to avoid dealing with the problem.
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    • #47
      GM loses $9 billion in 2005

      Yay!

      If GM goes bankrupt someday, what would happen with Toyota? Would they buy their shares back?

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      • #48
        During the 1980's, GM spent $45 billion on Saturn and automation projects.

        For that amount of money, they could have bought Toyota and Nissan.

        I honestly believe that GM is in the straits that they are now because Roger Smith was such an incompetent CEO, a man who literally pissed-away a Microsoftian advantage in the US car market. By the time he left in 1989, the damage was done. His successor, Robert Stempel (Stemple?), wasn't the catalyst for change that GM desperately needed,

        As a matter of fact, the only US automaker with a CEO that bothered to sit up and take notice of the world market was Chrysler, when Robert Eaton sold the company to Daimler, knowing that Chrysler, by itself, couldn't withstand the upcoming decade.

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        • #49
          I'm not sure he knew Chrsyler couldn't stand the coming decade but he did know the Germans were offering him twice what the company was worth. He knew to take the money and run.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Oerdin
            I'm not sure he knew Chrsyler couldn't stand the coming decade but he did know the Germans were offering him twice what the company was worth. He knew to take the money and run.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by CerberusIV
              "It provides significant liquidity to support our North American turnaround plan, finance future GM growth initiatives, strengthen our balance sheet and fund other corporate priorities."

              Some analysts have warned that falling sales and soaring employee pension and healthcare liabilities could force GM into brankruptcy.
              What is their turnaround plan? I think this just gives them some cash to survive on for awhile.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Oerdin
                I'm not sure he knew Chrsyler couldn't stand the coming decade but he did know the Germans were offering him twice what the company was worth. He knew to take the money and run.
                That's not how I remember it. I'll check back on my references, but I'm pretty sure that Kerkorian sued Daimler-Chrysler, saying that Chrysler management undervalued the company by as much as $9/share. The whole deal was valued at $36 billion, Kerkorian said the price should've been in the mid-$40s.

                Of course... Kerkorian himself tried to buy the company with a starting price of $23 billion just three years prior, so the true value of Chrylser is proably between what he wanted to pay for it and what he said it was worth when he sold it.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Kidicious


                  What is their turnaround plan? I think this just gives them some cash to survive on for awhile.
                  Apparently their turnaround plan is to sell off one of their few profitable divisions so they can flush more money down the toilet.
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                  • #54
                    GM needs to make interesting cars and stop paying so much to build those cars. There quality is actually #3 in the industry but even good quality bad designs are still bad designs. They design everything by committee so they’re assured to get substandard design which doesn’t even come close to the designers’ original intent. They need to copy Chrysler and Honda and instead just have a small design team which is empowered to make all the design decisions without 4 million accounts and other people all telling them to change stuff.

                    Next they have to many brands and should sell a few off. Rationalizing their brands will mean they can spend more money building up the brands which remain. This won’t happen as long as the same idiots who have run the company for the last 30 years stay in place so GM needs to get an outsider to do the job and he needs to have the power to fire the other executives and not just the blue collar workers. Someone like Ghosan is badly needed at GM.
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                    • #55
                      what could an outside CEO qualified to rescue GM possibly see as his benefit for taking the job? the only people qualified to take that position are already the heads of other motor companies already.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by JohnT


                        That's not how I remember it. I'll check back on my references, but I'm pretty sure that Kerkorian sued Daimler-Chrysler, saying that Chrysler management undervalued the company by as much as $9/share. The whole deal was valued at $36 billion, Kerkorian said the price should've been in the mid-$40s.

                        Of course... Kerkorian himself tried to buy the company with a starting price of $23 billion just three years prior, so the true value of Chrylser is proably between what he wanted to pay for it and what he said it was worth when he sold it.
                        The $23 billion bid wasn't a serious bid. Kerkorian was just trying to manipulate management. I have no idea why Kerkorian is trying to sue Daimler now. He doesn't have a case.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Kidicious
                          He doesn't have a case.
                          thats not the only reason why people sue
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Oerdin
                            GM needs to...
                            ...sell out.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by MRT144


                              thats not the only reason why people sue
                              Why do you think he's doing it?
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Kontiki


                                Apparently their turnaround plan is to sell off one of their few profitable divisions so they can flush more money down the toilet.
                                Well that money is going to end up in someone's hands.
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