A Parents Right in a Minors' Abortion...

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Krill
I asked my doctor that a few years ago, when I was under 16, and he said that my parents had to be informed. I must admit it was a fair while ago though...

I had the opposite experience, again a fair few years ago. I had an accident being somewhere I shouldn't have been, and asked the doctor for my parents not to be informed, and he said that was my right.

[Gibsie]

I'm firmly on the side of doctor/ patient confidentiality

[Joseph]

Originally posted by mrmitchell

Joseph I hate to use your post for an example but even with the boy, if the case wasn't rape and your daughter consented to unprotected sex, why would the boy be less morally at fault than your daughter?

Both are equal, however I would still beat the Sh1t out of the boy.

[Thorn]

I have a solution, execute all minors, then there won't be any debate at all. Done.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Darius871


Your avatar makes that statement at least 34.73 times as funny.

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[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Sava
If an underage girl has to go get an abortion without her parents knowledge, it is because the parents would not be there to support their daughter or respect her daughter's wishes. Obviously, such parents would have a problem with parenting because the girl in question does not feel comfortable enough going to her parents in the first place. I can't even imagine what that would be like. My parents would always listen to me no matter what I would do. Obviously I can't get pregnant, but if my sister were in this situation, my parents would be there for my sister.

But there are some parents in this world that are just bad parents. They are just ignorant and driven by their sick ideologies and don't care what's best for their kids. They would not care what their daughter wishes would be. So I think this is a good thing.

It's a shame that an underage girl would have to do this, but parent's should not have total control over their kids... especially when it comes to medical decisions... and especially when it goes against the wishes of the patient, even if they are underage.

They may be minors, but still, I was a minor, and only you should have the right to make decisions about your body. No one else.

All throughout human history, people that age were having children, having families, etc... but now, only in the last 50 years or so, we are considering 15-18 year olds "minors" and making arguments like "THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF MAKING DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES!!!"

bull****...

that's all I have to say...

as long as they are in the care of a doctor, they should be able to decide what medical care they want... whether it is getting an abortion, or whatever...

Wow. Just wow. Since when did you acquire an alter-ego? I don't know what happened to the old Sava or where this one came from, but I definitely like the new Sava better. Good job man


As for the confidentiality discussion, its good to hear that doctor/patient confidentiality actually exists in the UK. In the US... not so much.

A few months ago my girlfriend (now ex) went to the gyno with her mom (she didn't have a car and needed a ride). The doctor gave her a standard questionare that asked if she had been sexually active recently (something relivant for where she was). She said yes. (yea baby ) The doctor called her mother into the room and told her.

My girlfriend was 23.

So yea, if doctors get away with bull**** like that with legal adults, they do much worse and more invasive crap to kids under 18 (or 16) in this country. Not saying all doctors are as much of an ass as that one, but there are lots and lots out there.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
A few months ago my girlfriend (now ex) went to the gyno with her mom (she didn't have a car and needed a ride). The doctor gave her a standard questionare that asked if she had been sexually active recently (something relivant for where she was). She said yes.

He not only crusades for Youth Rights, but he also gets laid. Ozzy

[OzzyKP]

I'd hit it. I did hit it. It was nice.

Now she's gone.

I hit nothing.

[Jaguar]

Aw, I'm sorry.

[OzzyKP]

You have an older sister?

[Jaguar]

She's been taken for quite some time now.

However, I have some female friends my age who are single. They're perfectly capable of making their own decisions and such, so it wouldn't be at all inappropriate for someone your age to date one of them.

[mrmitchell]

The doctor called her mother into the room and told her.

There are definitely laws against that. IANA Lawyer but as sure as I'm sitting here, that is legally as well as morally wrong.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Jaguar
She's been taken for quite some time now.

However, I have some female friends my age who are single. They're perfectly capable of making their own decisions and such, so it wouldn't be at all inappropriate for someone your age to date one of them.

It might be morally ok for me (in theory), but considering most people in the world don't quite yet agree with my morals it is illegal and thus inappropriate. So... ask them all if they have older sisters.

I've seen some fine ass high school girls though out and about. Ah to be young again....

Though of course I never got near any of those fine ass high school girls when I was a high school guy, so I guess that wouldn't help. Oh well.

[mrmitchell]

Ozzy while you're in: Where did I see this statistic? A cite would be of much help to me and I think I might have even seen it on the NYRA website..

100 years ago youth did not reach puberty until 15-17 years old, but today it's ~11-14 (I might be off each date by a year or so but it is definitely younger today than it was 100 years ago)

EDIT: Found a source!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty#Historical_shift_in_the_onset_of_puberty

The age at which puberty occurs has dropped significantly since the 1840s. Researchers refer to this drop as the 'secular trend'. From 1840 through 1950, in each decade there was a drop of four months in the average age of menarche among Western European female samples. In Norway, girls born in 1840 had their first menarche at average 17 years. In France in 1840 the average was 15.3 years. In England the 1840 average was 16.5 years for girls and 17.5 for boys. In Japan the decline happened later and was then more rapid: from 1945 to 1975 in Japan there was a drop of 11 months per decade.

I guess I should rely on my Google Fu more...

EDIT 2: No, not for a paper. I know better than trusting WIkipedia for anything more than internet discussion

[OzzyKP]

Wikipedia isn't the best source though, like if you are writing a paper. Its no doubt true, but don't cite it.