American carrier sunk in the Pacific

[Lonestar]

Re: American carrier sunk in the Pacific

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie

Well, it's a good thin we're paying the Swedes to homeport their sub in SD so we can practice against diesel boats, huh?

[OzzyKP]

Doesn't this happen every month or two?

There was another post here on poly about some guy who sunk an American battleship with some fishing boats in an exercise.

[BeBMan]

Re: Re: Re: American carrier sunk in the Pacific

Originally posted by Dis


diesal subs can be quieter if they are run properly. As an electric motor and battery produce no noise. The only noise they make is the sound of the screw in the water (and water rushing over the hull). But with a nuclear plant you have reactor coolant pumps, steam turbines, various seawater pumps, and of course the big ass main feed pumps.

Ahh, thx for the info. I also think our newest (non-nuclear) subs use some kind of fuel cells, so are technically not diesel subs anymore.

[Patroklos]

I think Italy's new diesels, as well as Germany's, are damn good boats too. Swedes make some good ****, but not sure if it is better to any meaningful degree than their European competitors.

[Sikander]

Now if the Euros would just sell some of these fine boats to Taiwan.

[KrazyHorse]

To sink the all-powerful Chinese carrier fleet?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
To sink the all-powerful Chinese carrier fleet?

No, to sink the ever-growing Chinese sub flotilla.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Asher
All sailors are gay -- especially submariners.

That's why their boats are shaped so phallically

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


It also depends on how fast the carrier group is moving. If they move at a respectable speed they can't hear anything until it's too late. Esp if the torpedo can go at 81 knots

I believe thats why they would generally have subs in attendance, surface escorts that take turns drifting and listening AND helicopter dropped sonarbuoys AND even patrol aircraft with magnetic detectors.

I would think that the opposing US subs would be the greatest fear. I don't know how many submariners would be willing to fire a torpedo, even at a carrier, if they thought that an opposing sub was nearby.

Lastly How much damage could a single torpedo do to a carrier. I imagine the answer is "it depends" but it just seems that those boats are so large that its tough to imagine a single fish causing that much damage

[Flubber]

A question?? Are there any anti-torpedo torpedos?? It just strikes me that once a torpedo is detected its not like its a cruise missile or something. My understanding is these things come pretty straight in toward a ship. If the ship can track the torpedo, why could it not guide a defensive torpedo to intercept

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Doesn't this happen every month or two?

Probably. But it's quite big news here. Last time we had "joint naval excercises" with the superpowers was when we used live ammo against suspected Sovjet subs in the 80's.

There was another post here on poly about some guy who sunk an American battleship with some fishing boats in an exercise.

Reminds me of picture

[Patroklos]

Most Surface Ships (small boys) have a NIXIE or some version of it, which is basically a noise maker on a wire dragged behind the ship. Combined with PRARIE/MASKER and certain manuevering techniques the main gist of which is to destory your wake, surface ships are not really that vulnerable to torpedoes.

They are much more dangerous firing anti-ship cruise missiles submerged. Though that gives their position away. We would fire a torp/ASROC down the bearing of an incoming torp either way. However, Harpoons and other missiles can change course a few times before heading in, making that tactic useless (alot of Euro subs use Harpoons).

Alot of times we just outrun torpedoes, no range and relatively slow (ie they will run out of fuel before catching up)

[Patroklos]

Reminds me of picture

Looks like it is a Hellfire short, wonder where that dudes budies are...

[Joseph]

Good reading

[Thrawn05]

I think this pic would of use in this thread.