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    Nothing like some old fashioned industrial policy -- what we call "corporate welfare" here in the States -- applied to the new economy.

    Would you support your country spending tax money to compete against Yahoo! and Google?

    Europe searching for a rival to Google
    Tom Braithwaite, Paris and Tobias Bayer, Hamburg
    January 17, 2006

    MEDIA group Bertelsmann is close to signing up as German leader on a project to create a multimedia search engine to challenge US dominance.

    Project Quaero - from the Latin "I search" - was trumpeted by French President Jacques Chirac in a new year's address as a Franco-German response to "the global challenge posed by Google and Yahoo". It is part of an attempt by French and German governments to mobilise public and private resources to close the research and development gap between Europe and the more innovative economies of the US and Japan.

    Funding on the French side of up to E150 million ($240 million) will come from the new Agency for Industrial Innovation, set up on the recommendation of Jean-Louis Beffa, chairman of Saint-Gobain, the glass and ceramics group.

    Thomson, the media services and equipment group, will lead the French team, along with the French National Centre for Scientific Research.

    The formation of the German team was stalled by the German elections but the Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology on Friday will assemble potential members to a meeting in Berlin.

    Siemens chairman Heinrich von Pierer, who is close to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, is playing the same co-ordinating role on the German side as Mr Beffa.

    The most striking proposal seeks to create a search engine for the general public that can sort through audio, images and video as well as text.

    Current multimedia search engines rely on written descriptions of audio, images and video, which lead to inaccurate results.

    Quaero would incorporate techniques to transcribe audio automatically as well as image and video recognition.

    As the amount of video and audio proliferates on the web - such as for podcasts - the downloadable audio that took off last year - it is becoming harder to sort through. This is also true for archives at the French National Audiovisual Institute and the German Studio Hamburg.

    French sources say Bertelsmann - through its Empolis data processing subsidiary - might sign up officially as soon as Friday although an informal agreement has already been reached. Empolis would say only that it was studying the project.

    Deutsche Telekom is reportedly a consortium member but is reluctant to take an active role. There are also concerns about its links with Google.
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    Yes, we cannot allow American companies to control the internet! Vive la France!
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    No, none of my money should go to boondoggles of this sort.
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    Last edited by DanS; January 16, 2006, 11:02.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    save the 30 hour work week!
    Monkey!!!

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    • #3
      Higher pay for less work!
      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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      • #4
        Hopefully, the will hire me as a consultant.
        “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

        ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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        • #5
          save the 30 hour work week!
          Higher pay for less work!
          Blah

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          • #6
            I don't really see the usefulness of creating an alternative search engine. Even if the French-German engine becomes commercially successful, the wealth generated wouldn't significantly trickle down the rest of the economy IMO (what with this industry employing very few people in comparison with the money it makes).

            I support the move insofar as the State tries to get something smooth and commercial running, and once it works (or once it shows it definitely doesn't work), removes its participation and gathers them taxes. If the State is any more ambitious than that, I think it will be a waste of tax Euros.
            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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            • #7
              DanS, do you see the difference between corporate welfare and using/creating public companies to promote national cultural interests?
              In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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              • #8
                Admit it, Dan; you secretly love France.

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                • #9
                  Actually, I like France. Sometimes France frustrates me so much that I feel like pounding my forehead against my screen (as in this instance), but I like France.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    promote national cultural interests?
                    "promote"?

                    Free Markets? Ain't it always social states that are shouting for free markets/free trade?
                    Monkey!!!

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                    • #11
                      Well, to reply something serious - I don't like the idea that private business gets lots of money for something they should pay themselves for. If they are behind in that area they should get their **** together, but with their own money. I don't know about Thomson, but Deutsche Telekom is certainly not a poor company. It is not even comparable to Airbus, which is a totally different case IMO.
                      Blah

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                      • #12
                        I agree with BeBro

                        It's subsidies, and we get yelled at for ours.
                        Monkey!!!

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                        • #13
                          they need to change the name.
                          qaureo is way too hard to spell.

                          seriously
                          CSPA

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                            DanS, do you see the difference between corporate welfare and using/creating public companies to promote national cultural interests?
                            The stated reason for this boondoggle is to lessen the R&D gap, not to promote national cultural interests.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gangerolf
                              they need to change the name.
                              qaureo is way too hard to spell.

                              seriously
                              Queero?
                              The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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