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    Saddam judge 'resigns from trial'

    Iraqi government officials are considering the resignation submitted by the chief judge at the trial of the former Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein.

    Before the judge, Rizgar Amin, can step down, his departure has to be approved by the offices of both the president and the prime minister.

    A source involved in the tribunal told the BBC he is disappointed by public reaction to his running of the trial.

    He has been accused of being too lenient on Saddam Hussein in court.

    The source said his resignation has not yet been accepted and colleagues are trying to persuade him to reconsider.

    Judge Rizgar is overseeing the trial of Saddam Hussein and seven former members of his regime over the killing of 148 people in Dujail in 1982.

    The defendants all deny the charges.

    'Seeking fairness'

    There are four other judges involved in the tribunal, but Judge Rizgar has been very much the public face of the court.

    Amid security fears, highlighted by the killing of two defence lawyers, only one other trial judge has appeared on camera and many witnesses have kept their identities secret.

    Some members of the Iraqi government and US politicians have complained that Judge Rizgar has been too soft on the former president, allowing him to take over the court.

    However, the source within the tribunal told the BBC's Alistair Leithead in Baghdad that Judge Rizgar is not resigning over pressure from the Iraqi government, but because of his disappointment at the public's reaction.

    The source said that the judge had simply been trying to ensure that the trial is fair and that everyone involved gets their say.

    'Winning tactic'

    The BBC's world affairs editor, John Simpson, who has attended the trial in Baghdad, says Judge Rizgar knows his resignation will be a terrible blow to the whole project of bringing Saddam Hussein to justice.

    He may be hoping that public opinion will now swing behind him.

    Judge Rizgar has been remarkably lenient to Saddam Hussein and his half-brother, Barzan al-Tikriti, and they have taken advantage of this, our correspondent says.

    However, he says that this does not mean that the senior judge has lost control of his court.

    Judge Rizgar is a polite, highly intelligent man, who wants the world to see that he dispenses a very different kind of justice from Saddam's own courts, our correspondent says.

    And it is a tactic that works, he adds - at the start of the trial, Saddam Hussein refused even to give his name. Yet by force of sheer politeness, Judge Rizgar has worn him down.

    His resignation must be approved by both the prime minister's counsel and the president and vice-presidents. The trial is due to resume on 24 January.
    Bring in the tough judges! Macho justice for all.
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    I imagine the Iraqi government will rejecthis resignation and things will go forward.
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    • #3
      Nice and creative way to save on the typing you got there Oerdin.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by alva
        Nice and creative way to save on the typing you gothere Oerdin.
        fixed
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        • #5
          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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          • #6
            I guess the man wants to live to see his grandchildren

            I've watched some of the trial. Its been a farce. The US should really join the ICJ and tell the puppet government in Iraq to join too.

            Slobo's trial is just so much more credible.
            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
              The US should really join the ICJ
              The US is a member of the ICJ.

              But hey, why should you start to make sense after all these years.

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              • #8
                International criminal court
                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Winston


                  The US is a member of the ICJ.

                  But hey, why should you start to make sense after all these years.
                  Care to show me where they are in this list, you Dansk twit?

                  The International Criminal Court (ICC) investigates and, where warranted, tries individuals charged with the gravest crimes of concern to the international community: genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and the crime of aggression.//​La Cour pénale internationale (CPI) mène des enquêtes et, le cas échéant, juge les personnes accusées des crimes les plus graves qui touchent l’ensemble de la communauté internationale : génocide, crimes de guerre, crimes contre l’humanité et crime d’agression.
                  Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                  Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                  • #10
                    Nice going.

                    What all of this nonsense has to do with the trial of Saddam, however, remains a bit of a mystery.

                    He's standing trial in the country where he committed his crimes, and he will eventually receive his just punishment under its laws. I don't see the problem.

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                    • #11
                      You're like Coyote, this one will blow up in your face too

                      BEEP! BEEP!
                      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                      • #12


                        I'd rather view Saddam as the Coyote, and his various tactical moves in court as ACME kits.

                        The only thing is, it gets boring when the whole thing lasts more than ~7 minutes.

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                        • #13
                          They brought in the tough judge... and Saddam walks out. Macho justice sure imposes order into the court room.

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                          • #14
                            That trial is a joke.
                            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                            • #15
                              Why is he allowed to walk out?
                              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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