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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dis
    I bet you Jesus was a terrible carpenter. All his peers laughed at him so he devised this brilliant scheme to make people believe he had divine powers.

    He got the last laugh. Even as he died on the cross.
    I don't think Jesus had a scheme to have a cult turn into a religion like this. In fact, I think it's the people afterwards, the apostles, that used the Jesus myth to spread their cult.

    I think that the real Jesus, the historical figure, who was not the Son of God, but just a regular person who probably went around preaching a lot of really good things; probably did not think that this would happen. That we would be seen as the son of God and be worshipped. In fact, I think he'd be mortified if he saw today's world and how his image is being used.

    And being crucified is no big deal. Tons of people were crucified in those days.

    I don't think he was laughing though.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #32
      Did Jesus even call himself the son of god?
      "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
      "Bill3000: The United Demesos? Boy, I was young and stupid back then.
      Jasonian22: Bill, you are STILL young and stupid."
      "is it normal to imaginne dartrh vader and myself in a tjhreee way with some hot chick? i'ts always been my fantasy" - Dis

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sava


        I don't think Jesus had a scheme to have a cult turn into a religion like this. In fact, I think it's the people afterwards, the apostles, that used the Jesus myth to spread their cult.

        I think that the real Jesus, the historical figure, who was not the Son of God, but just a regular person who probably went around preaching a lot of really good things; probably did not think that this would happen. That we would be seen as the son of God and be worshipped. In fact, I think he'd be mortified if he saw today's world and how his image is being used.

        And being crucified is no big deal. Tons of people were crucified in those days.

        I don't think he was laughing though.
        yeah that's probably closer to the truth. I've never even read the bible, so I can't say. I never understood what the apostles did anyways. I guess now days they'd be like groupies.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bill3000
          Did Jesus even call himself the son of god?
          Hard to know - the only available sources are not exactly paragons of scholarly objectivity.
          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

          It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
          The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Az

            I do wonder what's the achievement in being a homeless former carpenter and changing the world, if you're still the Son of God.
            That's what always makes me laugh at Ozzy's quote in Ben's sig.
            "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
            "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
            "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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            • #36
              Re: A tribute to a homeless, former carpenter who changed the world.

              For the last time, he wasn't homeless for ****s sake! They just couldn't find room at the inn because, for some dumb reason, they had to pay taxes in another city.

              I hope you all choke.
              "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

              Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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              • #37
                Re: Re: A tribute to a homeless, former carpenter who changed the world.

                Originally posted by Jaguar
                For the last time, he wasn't homeless for ****s sake! They just couldn't find room at the inn because, for some dumb reason, they had to pay taxes in another city.
                It's not dumb at all - hadn't Luke invented that little bit, there'd been no excuse to place his birth in Bethlehem, and then the prophecy hadn't been fulfilled.
                Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                • #38
                  Well regardless of whether they were fictional characters or real people, they were NOT homeless characters/people.
                  "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                  Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                  • #39
                    I know its not your point, but it was a census, not to a need to pay taxes.
                    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                    • #40
                      That song was so bad. I just couldn't go through the whole thing. Someone tell me there was a funny punchline at the end.
                      What?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bill3000
                        Did Jesus even call himself the son of god?
                        'When it was day, the Council of elders of the people assembled, both chief priests and scribes, and they led Him away to their council chamber, saying, "If you are the Christ, tell us." But He [Jesus] said to them, "If I tell you, you will not believe; and if I ask a question, you will not answer. But from now on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God." And they all said, "Are You the Son of God, then?" And He said to them, "Yes, I am." Then they said, "What further need do we have of testimony? For we have heard it ourselves from His own mouth." - Luke 22:66-70

                        And that testimony is true. For not only did the good works that Jesus do testify of this truth, but God Himself testifies by His Spirit that these things are true.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sarxis
                          And that testimony is true. For not only did the good works that Jesus do testify of this truth, but God Himself testifies by His Spirit that these things are true.
                          You will need a bit more than this to convince me.
                          What?

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                          • #43
                            What he needs is pills.
                            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Richelieu


                              You will need a bit more than this to convince me.
                              Its the convincing that is the trick, isn't it? I can't do it, only God can open the eyes of a man's heart. But know this - when the time comes for you to understand, you will be able to see it clearly.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Christmas/Big Crotch/whatever he's called now

                                "You better nash off to Egypt."


                                Further proof that chavs are just geordie charvers several years too late.
                                By the way, and I'm sure Sloww will back me up on this, the correct version goes thusly: "Yees'd berrer gan an nash off ta Egypt like bonny lad".

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