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  • #46
    Originally posted by Kuciwalker
    Only goes to show you how out of touch you filosofers are. High towers and walls have been obsolete since the cannon.
    Man, do you guys have even a rudimentary clue about strategy? With the high ground, we can spot targets better. Foolish technogeeks. This is why you guys stay behind during missions. Otherwise, you would all be dead.
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    • #47
      We have satellites. Satellites pwn towers for spotting targets.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Kuciwalker
        We have satellites. Satellites pwn towers for spotting targets.
        Except satelites don't hover overhead. And suck at spotting targets in difficult terrain.

        Too much faith in technology- exactly why Osama is still running around. Get your head out in the world and smell the coffee boy. You are a disgrace to Popper, stuck in your own set of dogma's. Nothing more staid than an technogeek's mind.
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        • #49
          Except satelites don't hover overhead. And suck at spotting targets in difficult terrain.


          So do towers. Satellites can get a view from right above.

          And we have spy drones and spy planes too.


          Too much faith in technology- exactly why Osama is still running around. Get your head out in the world and smell the coffee boy. You are a disgrace to Popper, stuck in your own set of dogma's. Nothing more staid than an technogeek's mind.


          Clearly the spotters in the ivory tower could find him, if only we gave them a chance.

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          • #50
            Sad really, that someone so young is a poster child for the enemies of science when they point at someone so stuck in dogma they might was well call themselves priests.

            What happens with the unexplored life-what is missing from a well rounded one.

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            • #51
              Socrates, incidentally, has been credited with steering ancient Greek though away from the empirical approach of the presocratics into the more speculative and "philosophical" paths of later Antiquity.
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by GePap
                Sad really, that someone so young is a poster child for the enemies of science when they point at someone so stuck in dogma they might was well call themselves priests.
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                I'm a lot of things but I don't think dogmatic is one of them

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by GePap


                  At the same point in time, it could not falsify the correct statement of Everest;s height, because such a statement would be unfalsifiable.

                  Popper should be shot for using such a stupid word. I guess he did not want to use "verifiable" either. BUt using the negative of verifiable is just as, well, wrong.

                  The man should be shot for the missuse of language.
                  So your disagreement with Popper is trivial, and when it gets down to the meat of the matter, che is indeed incorrect. Feel free to call it "verifiability" if you like, but when one says "falsifiability" to scientists, they know exactly what it means.

                  The height of Everest is easily falsifiable (i.e. capable of being proven false, whether it is or not), since we have proven means to calculate it.

                  Oh, and were someone to tell them that "god" told him that Everest was ~30,000 feet tall, that would be unfalsifiable, since we couldn't disprove this individual's supposed discourse with said god.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Kuciwalker
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                    I'm a lot of things but I don't think dogmatic is one of them
                    Oh, it's GePap's usual schtick when he gets into a froth against someone. Make a lot of completely irrelevant attacks based on things he's made up in his mind about folks...
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by GePap


                      At the same point in time, it could not falsify the correct statement of Everest;s height, because such a statement would be unfalsifiable.
                      "Falsifiable" means that you can conceive of an experiment which gives results which would falsify the hypothesis. Not that such an experiment would actually give the necessary results.

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                      • #56
                        So-called "macroevolution" would be falsifiable if there were an inordinate number of gaps in our fossil record of the transitions between species (in other words we didn't see a proper progression). The gaps which exist now are merely indicative of the spottiness of coverage, thus macroevolution passes the best test we can reasonably place on it. As time goes on and our fossil record gets better macroevolution is strengthened.
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                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                          Oh, it's GePap's usual schtick when he gets into a froth against someone. Make a lot of completely irrelevant attacks based on things he's made up in his mind about folks...


                          Few people think of themselves as dogmatic. That someone does not define themselves as such is no proof against.

                          As for "making my mind up", that is thwe wonderful part of being open to new experiences- to allow one's view of someone to change, for better or worse.

                          MIght want to explore that Boris.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                            Oh, and were someone to tell them that "god" told him that Everest was ~30,000 feet tall, that would be unfalsifiable, since we couldn't disprove this individual's supposed discourse with said god.
                            Who said anything about disproving the discourse? The point was that our "knowledge" of Everest's height because a god told us could still be verified experimentally, if we so chose to do so.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by GePap
                              As for "making my mind up", that is thwe wonderful part of being open to new experiences- to allow one's view of someone to change, for better or worse.

                              MIght want to explore that Boris.
                              Oh, I have. I used to have a lot of respect for you.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                                Oh, I have. I used to have a lot of respect for you.


                                Good for you

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