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  • Russia: The Peace Corps is a CIA Front!!!

    Russia moves to rein in NGOs


    By Steven Lee Myers in Moscow
    November 25, 2005

    Russia has moved to impose greater government control over charities and other non-governmental organisations, including some of the world's most prominent, in what critics described as the Kremlin's latest effort to stifle democracy.

    The lower house of parliament gave preliminary approval to legislation that would require tens of thousands of Russian organisations to register with the Ministry of Justice. It would also impose restrictions on their ability to accept donations or hire foreigners and ban foreign organisations from opening branches in Russia.

    The legislation could yet be significantly revised but, as now written, it would force organisations like Greenpeace or Amnesty International to close their Moscow offices and reregister as purely Russian entities. The legislation does not seem to specify how that could happen and includes restrictions that make it doubtful they would be able to reregister.

    Although some of the bill's supporters defended it as an effort to bring order to the registration of 450,000 private groups, others have said it was aimed at preventing foreign efforts to support political opposition movements, like the one that swept to power after the Orange Revolution in Ukraine.

    "We have seen what happened in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova and how these local branches of foreign NGOs that are funded by the CIA functioned," said Alexei Ostrovsky, a nationalist MP.

    "We want to defend our citizens from the chaos which our country can be dragged into by these foreign NGOs."

    The legislation follows sharply worded remarks by President Vladimir Putin and Nikolai Patrushev, the director of the Federal Security Service, alleging that foreign organisations often undermined Russian interests.

    Mr Putin has long faced criticism for strengthening his political authority, despite his avowed commitment to democracy, and the legislation prompted still more criticism.

    "This is the last sector of civil society that has not fallen under government control," Alexander Petrov, the deputy director in Moscow for the international group Human Rights Watch, said at a news conference held on Tuesday in the hope of persuading the parliament to reject or at least amend the legislation.

    Critics of the law say Russia's restrictions would go beyond those imposed on non-governmental organisations by most of the developed world, including the other members of the Group of Eight.

    A legal analysis by the non-governmental groups says that the law would put Russia in line with countries like Turkmenistan, and mentions that even Kazakhstan tried to impose such restrictions, but was ultimately blocked.

    Last May Mr Patrushev accused Western organisations - including the US Peace Corps and the British medical charity Merlin - of being fronts for espionage. "Under the cover of implementing humanitarian and educational programs in Russian regions, they lobby for the interests of certain countries and gather classified information on a wide range of issues," he told MPs.




    Could Greenpeace be a front, too!?
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    No, but if you assume the intelligence communities won't use these to their benefit, then you are wrong.

    Just like Rooskies did with Spetznaz (spelling?), who were able to travel all around the world being in different sports teams, this is a great way ot also lurk into things.

    But no, these organisations are run by those people.
    In da butt.
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    • #3
      Are you only figuring this out now or are you being ironic, TMM? Just about everyone knows this.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #4
        I think it's news to him.
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        • #5
          They are doing this because of the Rose and Orange revolutions?

          [Serb]
          "OMG the evil western NGO's are going to liberate our vassals! We must stop them!!!1!!111!11!"
          [/Serb]

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          • #6
            See, BeBro?

            Not all good conspiracy theories come from the US nowadays. Russia has some good ones, too!

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            • #7
              Actually I DO think the US Peace Corps was originally a method that they US used to try to get developing nations to side with us instead of "them" (the USSR and the Communist block). Having said that, this law is primarily about right to reign in human rights so they can't report on the abuses in Russia.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by techumseh
                I think it's news to him.
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #9
                  Re: Russia: The Peace Corps is a CIA Front!!!

                  What is it American cousin of old good Soviet Pravda?

                  Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                  Russia moves to rein in NGOs


                  By Steven Lee Myers in Moscow
                  November 25, 2005

                  Russia has moved to impose greater government control over charities and other non-governmental organisations,
                  It should have been – Russia has moved to impose at least whatever level of control over an horde of very sucpicious organisations we currently have here.

                  in what critics described as the Kremlin's latest effort to stifle democracy.
                  No sh!t?

                  Your so-called critics whine for any reason whenever Russia tries to fill an empty spaces in its own legislation.

                  The lower house of parliament gave preliminary approval to legislation that would require tens of thousands of Russian organisations to register with the Ministry of Justice.
                  OMG!!! It’s gonna be another Iraq!!!


                  It would also impose restrictions on their ability to accept donations or hire foreigners and ban foreign organisations from opening branches in Russia.

                  The legislation could yet be significantly revised but, as now written, it would force organisations like Greenpeace or Amnesty International to close their Moscow offices and reregister as purely Russian entities. The legislation does not seem to specify how that could happen and includes restrictions that make it doubtful they would be able to reregister.
                  And this is plain lie.

                  The whole point of this bill is to bring some order in field which is currently full of chaos. Non-governmental, non-commercial organisations (including foreign organisations) still can exist without any registration (like it’s now), but as long as they form a legal entity they have to register and provide some BASIC information about this organisation (name, leaders, goals).
                  This procedure is absolutely necessary for obvious reasons.
                  The authorities can deny state registration of non-commercial organisation if:
                  1) another organisation with the same name already has been registred
                  2) name of this organisation insults moral, national or religion feelings (contains f*ck words, etc.)
                  3) basic instruments of this organisation violate the constitution of Russian Federation or local constitution of the subject of Russian Federation
                  4) basic instruments of this organisation contain false information
                  5) this organisation lacks documents needed for registration or if those documents do not fit requirements
                  6) founder or co-founder of this organisation is a ‘non grata’ person in Russian Federation
                  7) this organisation commits extremist activities (terrorism), helps to launder criminal money.

                  THAT’S ALL.

                  The rest is bullsh!t of your paranoid anti-Russian media.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Odin
                    They are doing this because of the Rose and Orange revolutions?

                    [Serb]
                    "OMG the evil western NGO's are going to liberate our vassals! We must stop them!!!1!!111!11!"
                    [/Serb]
                    Thanks for quoting me, Mr. Saeed al-Sahaf.

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                    • #11
                      I thought the Russians got paranoid???

                      Also Kremlin budgeted funds for Russian NGOs in other countries

                      It's not a question of what would be done, it's a question of what CAN be done after this. This would mean that legislation would allow pretty much tight control over any NGO, in this case, the ones with foreign support. Government control.
                      In da butt.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pekka
                        I thought the Russians got paranoid???

                        Also Kremlin budgeted funds for Russian NGOs in other countries
                        Such as?

                        It's not a question of what would be done, it's a question of what CAN be done after this. This would mean that legislation would allow pretty much tight control over any NGO, in this case, the ones with foreign support. Government control.

                        What tight government control? As long as your foreign organisation has good intentions and do not violates our laws you are free to do whatever you wish.
                        If your organisation supports terrorism/national/religious tensions gives money to political parties (it is against our law) - get the hell out.
                        The end of story.
                        Last edited by Serb; November 30, 2005, 06:53.

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                        • #13
                          Serb, Mr Mearsheimer thinks Germany can kick your arse on its own.

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                          • #14
                            Mr. Mearsheimer should start smoking something less brain damaging.

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                            • #15
                              I found his logic compelling.

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