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    Studies: Wal-Mart check-out errors over U.S. guidelines

    Associated Press
    Posted Monday, November 21, 2005

    Wal-Mart Stores Inc. charged the wrong price to shoppers in California and the Midwest at a rate that exceeds those set by federal guidelines, according to two union-commissioned university studies released Monday.

    Attorneys general in Illinois and California said the reports raised serious concerns. Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, on a conference call held by the studies’ backers, said his office would investigate what he called a “culture” of inaccuracy.

    The two studies said random purchases at 60 Wal-Mart stores in California found that the wrong price came up 8.3 percent of the time. At 78 stores in Illinois, Indiana and Michigan, check-out scanners rang up the wrong price 6.4 percent of the time. In both states, some prices rang up higher and some were lower.


    The National Institute for Standards and Technology says that for every 100 items scanned, no more than two should have the wrong price. The NIST’s last industrywide study, in 1998, found the rate at 3.35 per 100.

    The recent studies were commissioned by the United Food and Commercial Workers, which has been unsuccessful in its attempts to organize Wal-Mart workers for years, and released by a UFCW-backed campaign group, Wake Up Wal-Mart. The research was conducted by the University of Illinois-Chicago Center for Urban Economic Development and the University of California-Berkeley.

    “A majority of Wal-Mart stores tested in this evaluation of price accuracy demonstrated errors in pricing that exceeded federally accepted standards for large retail establishments,” the California and Midwest studies concluded.

    The researchers said the average cost of overcharges was more than that of undercharges.

    Wal-Mart said it had not seen the studies and could not say if the research methods were valid.

    “It is no surprise that the study, which is union-funded, is being released the week prior to our holiday sales period,” Wal-Mart spokeswoman Sarah Clark said. The holiday season is a retailer’s busiest time of year — and a bad reputation can hurt a retailer’s bottom line.

    “If something is not right, we will fix it. However we do not know at this point if the study is valid,” Clark said.

    Analysts said the findings were surprising, especially since Wal-Mart has invested heavily for years in leading-edge software and hardware to keep close track of its inventory.

    “Wal-Mart is widely renowned for having one of the leading IT systems in the industry,” said Tom Rubel, who heads consultant Retail Forward in Columbus, Ohio.
    link: http://www.dailyherald.com/business/....asp?id=124296

    I just saw this on the local NBC news here in Chicago.

    Here is the only online story about it I could find so far.

    According to the NBC news story I saw on TV, the study indicates that Walmart overcharges people an average of $1.33

    So let me get this straight... according to the study, 6% of all items scanned at the Illinois stores were overcharged by an average of over a dollar.


    YEAH I'M SURE THAT IS AN HONEST MISTAKE RIGHT

    How long has this been going on?

    How much money has Walmart made from this "error"?






    I'll post the results of the study if I can find it. I'm sure a more detailed version of this story will come out in the next day or so.

    Discuss.


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    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #3
      Let me clue you in on a secret. If you find an error, you get 3$ off the item or the item is free if it is below 3$. So paying attention and asking for price checks is good for the pocket book.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        Let me clue you in on a secret. If you find an error, you get 3$ off the item or the item is free if it is below 3$. So paying attention and asking for price checks is good for the pocket book.

        ahhh yes.... but who does this?

        Walmart counts on the fact that nobody checks their receipts. Or at least, very, very, very, very, very, very, very few people do.

        But nevertheless, it's good advice DD.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sava
          ahhh yes.... but who does this?
          Well a fool and his money are soon parted. That being said I would like to see a study from a source with a less obvious agenda to push before getting all hysterical about Wal-Mart purposefully cheating customers.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by DinoDoc
            Well a fool and his money are soon parted. That being said I would like to see a study from a source with a less obvious agenda to push before getting all hysterical about Wal-Mart purposefully cheating customers.
            Honestly I suspect that I personally may have BENEFITTED more than not from screwups on their end. There have been several times I expected an item to be a couple bucks higher than it rang up at the register, but I wasn't about to spend the time to see if they made a mistake and undercharged me, especiallly given how stuff sometimes gets stuck under the wrong label.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DinoDoc
              Well a fool and his money are soon parted.
              People who shop at Walmart are fools?

              I'm not disagreeing with you... just surprised to hear you say this... that's all.


              That being said I would like to see a study from a source with a less obvious agenda to push before getting all hysterical about Wal-Mart purposefully cheating customers.
              The National Institute for Standards and Technology, the University of Illinois-Chicago, and the University of California-Berkeley have agendas to push?
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                I'm inclined to believe this is just a simple mistake made in trying to keep up with shifting inventory prices, etc. At Albertson's, where I work, we make our fair share of 'em. Ex: Brand X soups go on sale for a dollar a piece. But, 1 flavor of soups is accidentally not scanned by a Scan Coordinator (updates the product code's new price onto the computer system). So, you have 10 flavors that come up for 1$, and one flavor that does not. Our policy is, you get 1 of those items for free if they ring up wrong, and the rest at the correct price.

                Wal-Mart assuredly has better technology to keep track of this, but still, they have a helluva lot of products.

                Wait, this is Wal-Mart, THE GREAT SATAN!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Verto
                  I'm inclined to believe this is just a simple mistake made in trying to keep up with shifting inventory prices, etc. At Albertson's, where I work, we make our fair share of 'em. Ex: Brand X soups go on sale for a dollar a piece. But, 1 flavor of soups is accidentally not scanned by a Scan Coordinator (updates the product code's new price onto the computer system). So, you have 10 flavors that come up for 1$, and one flavor that does not. Our policy is, you get 1 of those items for free if they ring up wrong, and the rest at the correct price.

                  Wal-Mart assuredly has better technology to keep track of this, but still, they have a helluva lot of products.

                  Wait, this is Wal-Mart, THE GREAT SATAN!
                  Just doing the math on this... 60 stores in California, 78 stores in the Illinois-Indiana-Michigan areas...

                  6% of all scanned items in Illinois and over 8% of all items in California

                  at over a dollar per item

                  over God knows how long a period

                  this could end up being hundreds of millions of dollars... maybe even more...

                  yeah a simple mistake

                  AND THIS IS JUST WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    Clearly it is all Verto's fault.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by joncha
                      Clearly it is all Verto's fault.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        Also, tin foil hats can block the UPC scanners from reading your thoughts. FACT!
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                        • #13
                          what works best is if you line a baseball hat with foil, that way you attract less attention in public
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sava
                            Just doing the math on this... 60 stores in California, 78 stores in the Illinois-Indiana-Michigan areas...

                            6% of all scanned items in Illinois and over 8% of all items in California

                            at over a dollar per item

                            over God knows how long a period

                            this could end up being hundreds of millions of dollars... maybe even more...

                            yeah a simple mistake

                            AND THIS IS JUST WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT
                            Eh, first off, the article is talking about the number of items that scanned WRONG - which means under-charging a customer, as well as over-charging. Granted, it states that overall the overcharges outnumbered the undercharged, but not by how much.

                            And I don't know what to say about that "1.33$" comment you cite from the TV news. Is that items that ring up wrong and that the customer pays, or items that ring up wrong and are then corrected when the customer notices it?

                            And of course, with the hundreds of trillions of dollars that Wal-Mart is making off of this - no doubt to fuel their WMD program - you don't take into account money they lose when refunding customers at a price higher than the item's value.

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                            • #15
                              I always look over the reciepts for anything outrageously changed and I usually find that the clothing stores (Stage, J. C. Penney) are ripping your money. If Wal Mart has errors, they're so small that you don't notice them unless you do an item by item price check.

                              In a store with 60,000 items, it is inevitable that eventually something will get mislabeled. However, it would be uncharacteristic of Wal Mart to screw up 7% of purchases on purpose. They keep up with their books like a hawk.
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