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  • GM not going bankrupt! Scout's honor!

    You know that the going's tough when the CEO has to write to his employees saying that the company will not go bankrupt.

    The question is, do his employees or anybody else believe him?

    From the FT...

    Wagoner insists GM not heading for Chapter 11
    >By James Mackintosh in London
    >Published: November 17 2005 15:35 | Last updated: November 17 2005 15:47
    >>

    Rick Wagoner, chairman and chief executive of General Motors, robustly rejected claims that the world’s largest carmaker could be heading for bankruptcy as he tried to reassure staff worried about dire Wall Street predictions.

    In a letter to the company’s 325,000 employees sent on Wednesday, Mr Wagoner said it was “just plain wrong” to talk of GM filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection from creditors. “I’d like to just set the record straight here and now,” he wrote. “There is absolutely no plan, strategy or intention for GM to file for bankruptcy.”

    The letter follows a sharp fall in the company’s shares and bonds amid fears of a strike at Delphi, the bankrupt parts maker which is GM’s biggest supplier. In Thursday morning trading the shares hit an 18-year low of $20.80, close to the $20.44 low of Black Monday, the 1987 record stock market crash.

    Delphi supplies parts to every north American-built GM vehicle, and analysts predict GM would burn through its $19.2bn cash pile and be forced in bankruptcy in a three-month strike.

    In the letter, Mr Wagoner points to the “robust” balance sheet and liquidity of the company and sticks to this year’s plan to revamp the US business, which involves new vehicles, cost-cuts, a $1bn a year healthcare deal with unions approved last Friday and changes to sales and marketing.

    “The large losses at GM North America are unsustainable, for sure, and require a comprehensive strategy to address them… a strategy that must be implemented promptly and effecitvely, to get our US business profitable again,” he wrote. GM lost $4.1bn in its north American automotive division in the first nine months of this year.

    Mr Wagoner’s decision to stick to the existing plan is unlikely to reassure investors, who have been factoring in a probability of about 20 per cent of the company defaulting on its bonds in the next year.

    He also makes no mention in the letter of the impact of Delphi’s bankruptcy, which GM has estimated could cost it up to $12bn, although more likely about $6bn. In addition, Delphi executives have said they want GM to contribute to the cost of its restructuring by paying its workers lump sums to help cushion the blow of job losses and big pay and benefit cuts.

    Earlier this week the United Auto Workers union, which represents workers at both GM and Delphi, flatly rejected a revised pay proposal from Delphi, further raising fears that negotiations will break down and lead to a strike. Delphi’s revised proposal raised the average wage for its 35,000 blue-collar workers in the US from $10 an hour to $12.50, with benefits taking the total package to $21 an hour. But this remains less than a third of the $65 an hour Delphi pays today.

    “Delphi’s contract proposal is not a framework for an agreement but a road map for confrontation,” the company’s six unions said in a statement on Thursday.

    If a deal is not reached by mid-December, Delphi has said it will ask the bankruptcy court judge to annul its worker contracts in mid-January, allowing a strike.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

  • #2
    In slightly related news:

    Shaky outlook for U.S. pension agency

    PBGC says deficit narrowed but financial health is 'not improving'; now exposed to $108B in losses.

    November 15, 2005: 1:23 PM EST

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. agency that insures private pensions said on Tuesday that its deficit fell slightly to $22.8 billion in 2005 from $23.3 billion last year, but added its financial health was not improving.

    The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. (PBGC) said it incurred $4 billion in losses from completed and probable pension plan terminations in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30.

    But premium and investment income, as well as a reduction in liabilities due to higher interest rates, led to an overall net gain on the agency's books of $529 million.

    "Unfortunately, the financial health of the PBGC is not improving," said Executive Director Bradley Belt in a statement.

    The agency said its exposure to losses from pension plans sponsored by financially weak employers rose to $108 billion from $96 billion the year before.

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    • #3
      ...and...

      Senate Passes Bill to Require Full Funding of Private Pensions

      By Albert B. Crenshaw
      Washington Post Staff Writer
      Thursday, November 17, 2005; D01

      The Senate yesterday overwhelmingly approved a bill to strengthen the nation's private pension system by requiring employers to pay higher premiums to the government's pension insurance agency and toughening rules for keeping plans adequately funded.

      The measure, approved 97 to 2, also included a provision that would give Delta and other financially troubled airlines far more time than other companies to fully fund their pension plans. Bush administration officials have warned that such a timetable could greatly increase the cost to the pension insurance agency if the airlines ultimately fail, and yesterday the White House threatened a veto if that provision remains.

      The House has completed committee action on a pension bill that lacks the special relief for airlines. Chairman John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) of the House Education and the Workforce Committee said yesterday that he expects a vote on the bill after Thanksgiving.

      The Senate action came the day after the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. reported that the liabilities it has assumed to pay the pensions promised by failed companies remain more than $22 billion greater than its assets. The agency's executive director said the agency will run out of money if nothing is done.

      An analysis last month by the PBGC concluded that neither the House nor the Senate bill strengthens the agency as much as would the administration's original proposals early this year. However, the PBGC prefers the House measure to the Senate's.

      Strengthening the PBGC, which insures the pensions of about 44 million workers and retirees, isn't the only consideration.

      Lawmakers have been in a difficult position as the changing economy and flat stock market have weakened many employers, especially airlines, steelmakers and companies in the automobile industry, making it more difficult to fund traditional pension plans.

      Bankruptcies such as those of Bethlehem Steel and United Airlines have plunged the PBGC into the red, but some healthy employers warn that if the rules are tightened too much they will freeze or terminate their pension plans.

      If the traditional system continues to shrink, as if has for the past two decades, more workers will be forced to depend on savings and 401(k)-type retirement plans that some experts fear won't be enough.

      "It's a crisis. We see it with our airline workers. We see it with workers in manufacturing industries," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.).

      Congress is also under pressure because a temporary technical measure passed two years ago to ease funding requirements expires at year-end. If that happens, the formula by which employers calculate their pension liabilities will change in a way that will make those liabilities much larger.

      The Senate-passed bill would also require employers other than airlines to fully fund their pensions within seven years. The airlines would get 20 years.

      Companies whose credit ratings are low would have to make additional payments to their plans. The PBGC has found that poor credit ratings are a good predictor of plans that will fail, but critics say requirements should be based on the condition of the pension fund, not that of the employer.

      Other provisions of the bill include rules that would:

      Raise premiums paid to the PBGC to $30 per participant per year, from the current $19.

      Make it easier for companies to put money into the plans when times are good.

      Clarify that in the future cash-balance and other "hybrid" pension plans will not be regarded as violating federal age-discrimination laws.

      Require increased disclosure to workers of the financial status of their plans.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #4
        I think GM is toast. My reason? A Slate.com article, this thread, and the fact that most of their cars are ****.

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #5
          By the way, those proposed wage and job cuts by Delphi are breathtaking, even considering that they are merely negotiation stances. The unions just got kicked in the teeth something fierce.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            As much as I can't stand GM, this is not good news.

            The economy is running on borrowed time right now.

            The housing market has fueled most of it, and it's starting to cool off. If GM goes down alot of people are going to be hurting.

            Let's hope it gets cut up and dies a prolonged death rathar than a big bang.
            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • #7
              I think one could argue, Ted, that GM's "prolonged death" has been ongoing for a while. This might just be the final death rattle.

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • #8
                You do have a point.
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DanS
                  By the way, those proposed wage and job cuts by Delphi are breathtaking, even considering that they are merely negotiation stances. The unions just got kicked in the teeth something fierce.
                  Maybe the auto industry is getting it hard, but the Union movement at large has been pushing hard for pension reform for a while and now they're getting it.
                  If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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                  • #10
                    I should take care of my new Saab then, it might be my last
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                    • #11
                      I don't think you have to worry. Bankruptcy in the US doesn't mean what it means in many other countries. In the US, it means restructuring, a partial repudiation of obligations, and the common stock holders' stakes flushed down the toilet. It's highly negative, but often not a death knell.
                      Last edited by DanS; November 17, 2005, 17:41.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #12
                        Do the new bankruptsy laws affect corporations or is it just for individuals?
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ted Striker
                          Do the new bankruptsy laws affect corporations or is it just for individuals?
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            What's bad for General Motors is bad for America.
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