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  • A Second Lawyer in Saddam Trial Killed

    AP - 55 minutes ago

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Gunmen in a speeding car killed a defense lawyer in the Saddam Hussein trial and wounded another Tuesday, raising doubts about whether the prosecution of the ousted leader can proceed amid the insurgency and domestic turmoil. The assassination of Adel al-Zubeidi, who was representing former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan, in a predominantly Sunni Arab neighborhood in Baghdad was the second attack targeting the defense team since the trial began less than a month ago.

    Dead lawyers tell no tales


    I don't know what whomever is responsible for these murders thinks will be the gain.
    He'll eventually be found guilty, saving them the trouble.
    This incident following a request made yesterday.

    Mon Nov 7, 6:45 AM ET

    AMMAN (Reuters) -
    Saddam Hussein's defense lawyers on Monday called for his trial to be moved abroad to protect their lives after growing threats since the murder of a colleague.

    A defense lawyer who requested anonymity told Reuters moving Saddam and his aides abroad was the only way to protect the defendants and their lawyers, adding "the growing intimidation and threats against them will never allow the trial to be fair."

    A statement for the lawyers of Saddam and his aides and sent to Reuters called for the "transfer of the place of detention of the President and his aides to another country because of grave danger to their lives."

    It said the defense team had received no word from the court or the government guaranteeing its safety since the murder of a defense lawyer a day after his court appearance at the start of the trial on October 19.

    The murder of Saadoun al-Janabi by armed men who identified themselves as Interior Ministry employees renewed accusations of sectarian violence involving government forces.

    The government denied having a hand in Janabi's murder and said it stood ready to increase already tight security for the trial.

    The defense team said it had become "impossible to continue visits to their clients" in the heavily guarded compound where Saddam and his aides are held.

    "The defense lawyers cannot continue their visits because of the increased threats and with the serious deterioration in violence," the lawyers' statement said.

    Saddam and the seven others were charged with crimes against humanity over the deaths of 148 men after a 1982 assassination attempt against the former president in the village of Dujail.

    The trial has been adjourned until November 28 after the judge said witnesses were too scared to testify.

    Human rights groups have called for the same protection for defense attorneys and witnesses as has been given to prosecutors and judges.

    The defense team said it would not cooperate with the court until the authorities met their demand for protection and a full independent investigation into Janabi's murder.
    Dead lawyers tell no tales, Part 2
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  • #2
    I don't get the motive behind the killings.
    In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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    • #3
      My thoughts also. They can't kill all the lawyers that could be assigned to defend Hussein.
      IF it's Hussein's enemies, the point made in initial post
      addresses the ignorance. Why bother? Get Hussein soon enough.

      Sounds more to me like it's the demented thought process of his cohorts in crime.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #4
        maybe saddam took a disliking of his lawyers.

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        • #5
          This part may have something to do with it.

          The trial has been adjourned until November 28 after the judge said witnesses were too scared to testify.
          Move the trial where? If they move it, Hussein will have one foot out of the door.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            so what exactly is Saddam being charged with again?

            this?

            Saddam and the seven others were charged with crimes against humanity over the deaths of 148 men after a 1982 assassination attempt against the former president in the village of Dujail.
            seems like peanuts compared to all the death Saddam is responsible before...

            makes one wonder why Saddam isn't being held responsible for all the deaths...

            probably because US doesn't want the details of US support of Saddam in the 80's being brought to the light of day...

            that's the problem with charging a dictator for his crimes... you kind of have to take responsibility for helping him
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #7
              Sava, nah, I think that's enough to get the maximum results they want. No need to take all the time and spend all the money, they just go with the one they feel is slam dunk case IMO.

              And I'm with you guys, I don't get the logic behind this. He is done with, why kill his lawyers.. there's plenty to step in their boots and continue. The best thing for Saddam haters is to let the process go through as quickly as possible.

              Hey do you guys think this might be actually the works of his supporters? Maybe he could claim, that his defense is being sabotaged so much, that he can't get a fair trial and must be dismissed, beacuse his lawyers are getting killed and even the ones living are so afraid it affects their work???

              THAT would actually make sense to me.
              In da butt.
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              • #8
                Exactly. Unfortunately he can only be killed once.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                  I don't get the motive behind the killings.
                  Think about it..

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                  • #10
                    My chackpot theory: It's a plot by Saddam supporters in order to derail the trial.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Max Webster
                      maybe saddam took a disliking of his lawyers.
                      Well, nobody is ALL bad ...

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                      • #12
                        Exactly. Unfortunately he can only be killed once.

                        Even in the case of Saddam, I'm having a hard time supporting Capital Punshiment.

                        On the other hand, locking him in a bunker full of corroding shells which may or may not contain nerve gas, and tossing away the key, well, I'm okay with that.

                        So long as there's quantum uncertainty about his death, I think I'd be okay with punishments which may or may not result in execution.
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                        • #13
                          Schroedinger's Saddam?

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                          • #14
                            He-he. That one also has the benefit of being an extra-prima-mean twist, Mister Q Cubed Sir!

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                            • #15
                              The NYTimes reported suspicion that Moqtada al Sadr is responsible. We really ought to off that m.f.
                              He's got the Midas touch.
                              But he touched it too much!
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