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  • #16
    "He (the manager) said he would fill it himself if we could get there before his shift ended, within 10 minutes," said Sabrina Fladness, a University of Arizona student and owner of a computer service business.

    I wonder why he couldn't have just filled it and left it in a paper bag for pick up like the pharmacies I go to.
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    • #17
      Why is the article so up in arms that some pharmacies refuse to stock the drug? They aren't under any obligation to actually have the drug in stock.
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      • #18
        I am personally fine with the morning after pill. From what I have seen lots of universities have it (one of the few times I went to the campus medic place, there was a line and most of the people were females waiting to get a morning after pill)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          Why is the article so up in arms that some pharmacies refuse to stock the drug? They aren't under any obligation to actually have the drug in stock.
          Because in some areas this could result in the drug actually being unavailable to anyone.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
            Because in some areas this could result in the drug actually being unavailable to anyone.
            And?

            Private pharmacies should not be forced to sell drugs they don't want, whether it be for economic or moral reasons. If you want to nationalize pharmacies, go ahead, but don't tell these private pharmacies that they have to sell those drugs.
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            • #21
              It's different if they actually have the drug available to sell, and the only reason they won't is b/c of the opinions of the guy behind the counter.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Theben
                It's different if they actually have the drug available to sell, and the only reason they won't is b/c of the opinions of the guy behind the counter.
                I agree... but I didn't have an issue with the article calling that out.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DRoseDARs
                  According to the Bible, babies borne unto rape victims are God's way of punishing them for being unrepentent whores. They are to suffer in life for their sinful ways, they are to suffer their child's suffering for being the product of rape, and they are to suffer society's judgement of them being whores. Then they are to suffer some more in Hell.
                  Nice way of making a point, by saying something which is completely un-true.
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                  • #24
                    Brachy-Pride - that statement is a parsing of a statement made about single mothers. He's using reductio ad absurdum, in this case for sarcasm.

                    And in that spirit, let's permit Christian Scientists to work as emergency room M.D.'s and nurses - to make the point about letting pharmacists refuse to dispence FDA approved durgs. We've had this discussion on another thread, and I think Oerdin's point is that it is happening, as many of us predicted, and it's NOT an isolated case. Uncommen, possibly. However, it is no longer isolated, and that is a very saddening point.
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                    • #25
                      I don't know what point these anti-morning-after-pill people are trying to make.

                      It's not like the women are going to change their mind and have the child.

                      THey are just going to get an abortion.

                      Why not just make it easy on everyone and supply the pill?


                      OH NO, WE MUST PUNISH PEOPLE!!!

                      That is the mentality of these people. They are sick and demented. They don't just object to contraception... they literally want to PUNISH people. Because by denying the pill, you subject women to possibly having to go through an abortion. And who knows? Maybe the pregnancy could have complications.

                      The point being... a woman somewhere could end up dying because of these selfish, sadistic, ignorant people.

                      "pro-life" my ass
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                        I'm not sure they can, which is the point.
                        California passed a law which says a pharmacist's job is to fill perscrptions. If they have a moral problem and can't do their job then they need to find another line of work but if they refuse to fill valid perscriptions then they lose their pharmacists licence.

                        There is such hypocracy in the far right on tis issue. There have been cases where pharmacists have refused to dispense birth control for women but agreed to do so for men, etc...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                          If you want to nationalize pharmacies, go ahead, but don't tell these private pharmacies that they have to sell those drugs.
                          In France, we have several sectors held privately, that also have legal duties. Pharmacies are among them. And despite these horrendous duties (like having to provide a large list of different medications), it still is good business.

                          I know, it sounds incredible.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Spiffor

                            In France, we have several sectors held privately, that also have legal duties. Pharmacies are among them. And despite these horrendous duties (like having to provide a large list of different medications), it still is good business.

                            I know, it sounds incredible.
                            Nope - It works the same way here in Denmark, and I guess the same goes for the other scandinavian countries.
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                            • #29
                              yes... what is incredible is going to the doctor, getting a prescription for a medication, then going to the pharmacy where they tell you "we don't have it".
                              I'd burn the place down I tell you!
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

                                Private pharmacies should not be forced to sell drugs they don't want, whether it be for economic or moral reasons. If you want to nationalize pharmacies, go ahead, but don't tell these private pharmacies that they have to sell those drugs.
                                That's just plain stupid. Their religious beliefs are preventing them from doing their job. Pharmacists recieve a licence from the state which allows them to practice this profession and if a pharmacist is unable to perform a basic function of the career, I.E. dispense legal drugs to people with valid perscriptions, then they need to find another line of work.

                                If I said I believed in the fire god Frizor and that putting out fires was against my religious beliefs should I be allowed to be a fireman? Clearly, not putting out fires would majorly impact on my job as a fireman. A pharmacist who says he won't dispense legal medications equally is unable to do his job. If he wants to work in that field then he needs to perform all the duties the job entails. Simple as that.
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