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  • Miers withdraw - bets, anyone?

    When this is what the NRO--formally a major cheerleader for you--is saying about your nomination, it's time to pack it in.

    Recent and archived work by Byron York for National Review.


    October 20, 2005, 4:13 p.m.
    The Miers Support Team: Gloomy and Demoralized
    Now they’re discussing stopping her visits to the Senate.

    Strategists working with the White House in support of the Supreme Court nomination of Harriet Miers are becoming increasingly demoralized and pessimistic about the nomination's prospects on Capitol Hill in the wake of Miers's meetings with several Republican and Democratic senators. On a conference call held this morning, they even discussed whether Miers should simply stop visiting with lawmakers, lest any further damage be done — and so that time spent in such get-acquainted sessions will not cut into Miers's intensive preparation for her confirmation hearing.

    The strategists discuss issues on a twice-weekly conference call led by Leonard Leo, the executive vice president of the Federalist Society who has taken leave to help the White House shepherd the nomination through the Senate. A number of people who have taken part in the calls described the conversations to National Review Online. None wanted to be identified, because they do not want to openly oppose the White House or defy loyalists like Leo who are trying hard to defend Miers. Nevertheless, they paint a grim portrait of morale among those close to the nomination.

    "The number of participants is declining," says one knowledgeable source. "With Roberts, these calls occurred five or six or seven times a week. Pretty early on, the calls on Miers were scaled back to twice a week. That says something in and of itself."

    "It's been a gradual descent into almost silence," says a second source of the calls. "The meetings with the senators are going terribly. On a scale of one to 100, they are in negative territory. The thought now is that they have to end....Obviously the smart thing to do would be to withdraw the nomination and have a do-over as soon as possible. But the White House is so irrational that who knows? As of this morning, there is a sort of pig-headed resolve to press forward, cancel the meetings with senators if necessary, and bone up for the hearings."

    "They are going to be keeping the meetings that they've already scheduled," says a third source. "But they have scheduled murder boards today from 12 to 5. She has to focus on her hearing. And the questionnaire that wasn't filled out, to me that's an indication [the White House] hasn't done the vetting. She has to spend a lot of time discussing stuff that should have been done before. So between those two things — finishing the questionnaire and preparing for the hearing, which is going to be make or break — they prefer to put her time into that."

    "In the early days, there were people on the call who tried to give facile defenses of Miers, and they were immediately shot down," says a fourth source. "And by the way, those defenses weren't as insulting as the White House line — no way would they have done the 'sexist, elitist' line."

    In summary, says the first source, "People have been looking for ways to support this. There are a lot of us who would like to find a reason to be encouraged. Every time I try to accommodate myself to this nomination, folks at the White House say idiotic things that piss me off, like that spin on Rove's part about her supposed deep involvement in judicial selection for three years, which is just not accurate."

    "Demoralization and pessimism?" the source continues. "That's been a constant. We're in the various stages of grief."
    I think she's doomed.
    Tutto nel mondo è burla

  • #2
    Hmmmmmm... I think she'll go too, but I'll take that bet anyway. Avatar bet, 1 month?

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    • #3
      I hope she goes away...

      what a hag
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kuciwalker
        Hmmmmmm... I think she'll go too, but I'll take that bet anyway. Avatar bet, 1 month?
        I'll amend my thread title to be Miers "failure," as in she'll either withdraw or not be confirmed. I would never bet against the stubborn stupidity of the Bush Administration, so they likely won't withdraw her.

        It wasn't meant to be a literal bet, but I'll go for the avatar deal if you're willing.
        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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        • #5
          Hmmmmm...

          How about this: if she is withdrawn or defeated in a vote in the Senate (either in committee or in the full Senate) then you win, but if she is confirmed or filibustered by the Democrats (and then withdrawn) then I win. Avatar bet, the avatar lasts one month.

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          • #6
            Ok, but a Republican filibuster doesn't count. Only Democratic.
            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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            • #7
              Miers be neither Yarrr nor woo, as I have stated on numerous occasion.

              IMO, this is actually the stupidest thing Bush has ever done.
              "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

              Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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              • #8
                "Bring it on?"
                Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jaguar
                  Miers be neither Yarrr nor woo, as I have stated on numerous occasion.

                  IMO, this is actually the stupidest thing Bush has ever done.


                  I think the Iraq invasion might have been stupider . . . or perhaps ignoring the warnings that al-Qaeda was going to attack us. Or think that by cutting taxes they could increase government revenue. Or saving Social Security by gutting the funding of it.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #10
                    "Mission Accomplished!"
                    "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                    • #11
                      Or think that by cutting taxes they could increase government revenue.




                      Hasn't that happened?
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                      ASHER FOR CEO!!
                      GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                      • #12
                        No, because the economy naturally recovered somewhat government revenues increased.

                        Drake, would you like to buy my anti-tiger rock?
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • #13
                          No. The Japanese government's anti-tiger field seems to be working fine.
                          KH FOR OWNER!
                          ASHER FOR CEO!!
                          GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                          • #14
                            I predict a spectacle in the Senate that we haven't seen since Clarence Thomas.
                            If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                              No, because the economy naturally recovered somewhat government revenues increased.

                              Drake, would you like to buy my anti-tiger rock?
                              LOL
                              hadn't heard the tiger one in so long...

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