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  • I can respect that.
    urgh.NSFW

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    • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


      Huh?
      I don't know about America, but over in Europe alot of privatizations are going on. Some successfully, some, well, not.
      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
      The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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      • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


        I'm enjoying this for now
        But I need to know!
        Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

        When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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        • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
          Free enterprise is capitalist.
          Bull****.

          The private property of the means of productions is capitalist. The collective property isn't.

          Your argument actually reminds me of Berz's. What will you claim next? That a market is inherently capitalist?
          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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          • Freedom is inherently capitalist.
            Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

            When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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            • The "freedom" to starve
              urgh.NSFW

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              • Originally posted by OzzyKP
                Freedom is inherently capitalist.
                Yes, it's the freedom of the strong to bully the weak. This kind of freedom we can live without.
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • Originally posted by Spiffor
                  Bull****.

                  The private property of the means of productions is capitalist. The collective property isn't.


                  I didn't say it was the only form of capitalism, just that it was capitalism. Just because all As are Bs, doesn't mean all Bs are As.

                  Commodity production, which is the purpose of free enterprise, is the hallmark of capitalist society. In socialist society, we will not be producing commodities, a commodity being a thing produced in order to be sold in order to extract surplus value.

                  Planned doesn't necessarily mean centrally planned, not that central planning is a bad thing. One simply needs to look at how Wal-Mart works to realize that what brought the Soviets down was not central planning but poor central planning.

                  But if we allow free entrerprise, it will only be a rather short matter of time before competition once again creates a society of haves and have nots.
                  Last edited by chequita guevara; October 16, 2005, 11:49.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                    Free enterprise is capitalist.
                    No, Capitalism is when investors own the means of production. EMPLOYEE ownership of the means of production is not capitalist.

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                    • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      Originally posted by Spiffor
                      Bull****.

                      The private property of the means of productions is capitalist. The collective property isn't.

                      Commodity production, which is the purpose of free enterprise, is the hallmark of capitalist society. In socialist society, we will not be producing commodities, a commodity being a thing produced in order to be sold in order to extract surplus value.
                      Who will produce our computer games then?
                      "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                      "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                      "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                      • You'll have to make do with crappy freeware games.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • OH MY GOD NOOOOOO!
                          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                          • Scary, isn't it?
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • Chegitz has just turned me into a fanatic capitalist pigdog
                              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                              • Che sounds... resigned.

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