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It's hare to build for the working class when most of the cost is the property. SO unless you go highrises, it can't be done.
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Precisely. With property being as exapansive as it is, why aren't there more highrises?Originally posted by rah
SO unless you go highrises, it can't be done.
The way you wrote your sentence, it looked as if it could only be some pie-in-the-sky idea, but nothing that could possibly happen in reality
How come?
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Well it's going to have to be high rise and it's about time your government started pulling it's finger out on this issue and doing it. My country has been moving backwards and I still think that what has been the basic withdrawal of council property has landed us in a lot of trouble which we have at the moment. I don't earn a bad wage and I can't see how I could afford to buy a property. However I need to save up a deposit first before I start diving in anyway...Speaking of Erith:
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The way you wrote your sentence, it looked as if it could only be some pie-in-the-sky idea, but nothing that could possibly happen in reality How come?
Highrises?
pffft.
You know that can never happen. I mean, it's a good idea, in theory, but in reality, it can't be done. It goes against human nature.
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I think that if high rises are done properly (ie, not like Britain in the 1960s) then they are fine. The problem I have with modern construction is that they are building everywhere really cramped and small and that would get very annoying very quickly...Speaking of Erith:
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Spiffor, I remember asking that question before ("why doesn't a rich real estate guy like Donald Trump go and build a lot of highrises?") but GePap said that often in New York City, high rise construction is as much a political issue as it is an economic one. (You've got permits, environmental impact, traffic flow studies, safety, zoning, what the neighborhood feels, etc, etc. Amazingly enough I think one high rise tower for say 500 occupants would be more difficult to push through than a whole new subdivision with 500 houses.)
The same is probably true for California.meet the new boss, same as the old bossComment
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Perhaps you should start concentrating more on mass transit to move people these distances. I mean 2 hours? I could be in the north of England in that time...Speaking of Erith:
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Some notes.
I don't know if California has "smart growth" laws in the outer suburbs that limit growth. This would drive down the affordability of housing. I know that these laws are becoming popular in my area.
High rises are about twice as expensive to build as your typical American detached home. Quite simply, the value of the land would have to be able to cover that difference in order for the highrise to be worthwhile.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I think that if high rises are done properly (ie, not like Britain in the 1960s) then they are fine. The problem I have with modern construction is that they are building everywhere really cramped and small and that would get very annoying very quickly...
That's not an inherent problem with skyrises - it happens when there are entire projects allocated to the poor (instead of "taxing" each building to have a certain part of it allocated to government ownership.), or when money is saved on archecture and design.Comment
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High rises are about twice as expensive to build as your typical American detached home. Quite simply, the value of the land would have to be able to cover that difference in order for the highrise to be worthwhile.
And it's a vicious circle - whenever there are no natural zones that hinder construction near the center of the metro area ( hills or mountains ), this high land value is often very hard to achieve. This becomes even more impossible with supply of land being so high in the suburbs, and highways creating rapid travel. Now I am not saying that highrises should be forced, but in LA, they're long long LONG overdue.Comment
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What I never understood, is why they're building from wood instead of concrete...Comment
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again, cheaper. They never heard of the 3 little piglets, I guess.
But this is changing after a couple of forest fires.Comment
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Cost. Wood is damn cheap. Of course, high rises are built with either steel reinforced concrete or high strength steel, depending on the height.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by Az
The way you wrote your sentence, it looked as if it could only be some pie-in-the-sky idea, but nothing that could possibly happen in reality How come?
Highrises?
pffft. You know that can never happen. I mean, it's a good idea, in theory, but in reality, it can't be done. It goes against human nature.
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Who wants to live in something like this anyway?
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