Americans are stupid.

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by Odin
Standardized tests just encourage teachers to teach to the lowest common denominator over and over again to make sure they get enough dumb jocks to pass the tests, while smart people like me were bored to tears.

gutted, etc.

[Provost Harrison]

Re: Re: Americans are stupid.

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


l recall that the first debate I had with you on this board was over this topic, a few years ago.

So now you have finally discovered what you denied back then:

The average American is stupid and ignorant, despite most people on Apolyton being far better than average.

You only need to look at Newsmax to confirm that. Damn, that place makes my skin crawl thinking back at it...

[Chemical Ollie]

I don't even know what Newsmax is. Does that make me stupid and ignorant:

[Bill3000]

Remember years ago when we "invaded" the Newsmax forums? (I think that is where Ned originally came from, unsuprisingly.)

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Bill3000
Remember years ago when we "invaded" the Newsmax forums? (I think that is where Ned originally came from, unsuprisingly.)

Dosn't he have too many on-topic posts to come from the outside world?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by snoopy369
By and large school funding is done at the local level - and should be. Republicans believe that schools SHOULD be funded, just not at the federal level; school districts have widely varying needs and thus should be funded locally. Chicago has very different needs than Topeka, for example ...

How can you say that, when you're saying:

Parents don't vote to fund their schools, and even more so Retirees tend to not vote funding to their grandchildrens' schools. Try living in an area with a high retiree : pupil ratio ... at least where I'm from (southwest), the schools are massively underfunded because they can never pass bonds due almost entirely to 55+ vote against it

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Oerdin


Are you deliberately being obtuse? Attempting to teach that god made the world in 7 days and woman came from man's rib in a science class has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with religion and it doesn't belong in public schools. Yet some how we get the "your just trying to force your views on everyone" excuse when intelligent people tell them to keep their religion in their church. That's always been a crap argument and it still is.

The Bible never said it was 7 earth days. It does say that God took one day to make whatever and another day to make whatever. Now tell me how long is a day in God life and then you will know how long it took to make the Earth.

I suspect a day for God is million of years for us.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
It died when Oerdin started typing random diatribes against Republicans.

I'm sorry the truth hurts you so much.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by snoopy369
"Religious nut jobs" are just as entitled to their opinion as atheist nut jobs ...

"Atheist nut jobs" aren't trying to sneak in a thinly veiled version of Creationism through the backdoor. I don't recall having any "atheist nut jobs" standing around street corners proselytising.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Bill3000
Remember years ago when we "invaded" the Newsmax forums? (I think that is where Ned originally came from, unsuprisingly.)

Not sure about Ned, but Lincoln came from Newsmax.

[Pekka]

I don't believe in argumen that basically states it's your own fault, you shoudl have voted this or that.. .

Because, even Hitler said the Germans get what they deserve because they wanted him to come and lead and now they can't take it, and thus they are weak and deserve to die if that's what's up in the defense of Berlin.

It doesn't give you carte blanche if you are voted through.. on the contrary. So when that trust is broken, it's not reasonable to claim that yeah you voted that one so it's your own fault.

Depends on the situation of course, but subject like education? I would ASSUME this is high priority with EVERYONE. If there is any political party that doesnt' think so, it's never worth voting, because they're stupid and don't have their values right.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by snoopy369

Creationists believe that the beginning of the Universe is HISTORY. They have a historical document, that they believe is written evidence that what they believe, happened. Just like when you read a book about the ancient Egyptians, or read Homer or Virgil ...

I don't recall anyone seriously proposing that people use The Iliad or The Aeneid as the basis for teaching Ancient Greek or Imperial Roman history nowadays- nor that we should teach the 'science' of either text in the classroom.

You have a strange notion of what constitutes the teaching of science or history if you seriously imagine this to be the case.

What Creationists are seeking to do is impose the Christian faith upon the teaching of science- and you do not use the same system or set of tools exploring the physical world as you do the realm of the 'supernatural'.

Mysticism is not a replacement for material sciences; theology is not tensile solids by another name.