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    Software pirate to pay $1.1 million

    An admitted counterfeiter has agreed to pay Microsoft and Symantec $1.1 million in restitution, a victory in the software industry's fight against software piracy.

    The award is part of a plea agreement in a criminal software piracy case in Houston, Symantec said Tuesday. The case came to court after a yearlong investigation by the Houston police and the FBI into the activities of Li Chen, who was found to have 5,100 copies of counterfeit Symantec software at his Houston business, Symantec said.

    Chen pled guilty to one count of trademark infringement and agreed to pay Symantec $1,005,000 in restitution, the Cupertino, Calif., software maker said. Microsoft is to get $95,000, according to a copy of the agreement, which was signed on Aug. 29.

    Law enforcement officials searched Chen's business, Microsource International, on Nov. 17, 2004. In addition to the pirated software, they found documents showing that Chen had sold counterfeit Symantec products with a retail value of more than $9.9 million, Symantec said.

    "This guy was one of the largest distributors of pirated software. He had direct ties to China, where the counterfeit product was being produced," said Cris Paden, a Symantec spokesman.

    Microsoft worked with Symantec to support the Houston police and FBI in this case, said Bonnie MacNaughton, a senior attorney at the Redmond, Wash., software giant. "Microsoft is very pleased with the outcome and law enforcement's support for intellectual property protection," she said in a statement provided by Microsoft's public relations agency.

    Symantec and Microsoft both have significant ongoing initiatives to fight software piracy. Since September 2003, Symantec has won judgments in criminal and civil court of more than $19.5 million in damages against various entities for selling counterfeit Symantec software, the company said.


    so... how does Microsoft track pirate versions of Symantec software????
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  • #2
    people who sell pirated software should absolutely be prosecuted to the full extent of the law
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #3
      Sava
      urgh.NSFW

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      • #4
        I would like to know how they tracked this guy down. Is there some way to know which computer wrote a program?
        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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        • #5
          Re: Microsoft Pirate Hunter

          Originally posted by MarkG


          so... how does Microsoft track pirate versions of Symantec software????
          MSFT knows all.
          We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
          If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
          Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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          • #6
            Antiviral software would have to interact with the OS. User allowed updates and responses after crashes would allow that knowledge to be uploaded.
            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
            If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
            Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SpencerH
              Antiviral software would have to interact with the OS. User allowed updates and responses after crashes would allow that knowledge to be uploaded.
              Antiviral SW interacting with windows - shouldn't that kill windows ?
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

              Steven Weinberg

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              • #8
                :tinfoil hat mode: Of course it does. Thats the cunning part of the plan. The OS then asks to send a report and many will (without thinking) hit OK. Part of the report of the crash will have info about why it happened including what programs are interacting with the OS. I never use symantec and have no crashes (so no reports). :/tinfoil hat mode:
                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SpencerH
                  :tinfoil hat mode: Of course it does. Thats the cunning part of the plan. The OS then asks to send a report and many will (without thinking) hit OK. Part of the report of the crash will have info about why it happened including what programs are interacting with the OS. I never use symantec and have no crashes (so no reports). :/tinfoil hat mode:
                  Unfortunately the report has no information such as your CD-Key or Product ID, let alone Symantec's CD-key or product ID, and it also doesn't include any identifying information. The only potentially incriminating thing is the fact that you submitted a crash report, and they have your IP. If they work with the ISP they can find out which customer submitted the report, which is kinda like how RIAA works.

                  So while the tin-foil hat mode was interesting, it was way off.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Oerdin
                    I would like to know how they tracked this guy down. Is there some way to know which computer wrote a program?
                    They probably found him through his customers. Find someone with an illegal copy and ask them where they bought it. A couple of steps up the chain and they got this guy.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by VetLegion


                      They probably found him through his customers. Find someone with an illegal copy and ask them where they bought it. A couple of steps up the chain and they got this guy.
                      Nah, not a good explanation - not enough conspiracy theory involved.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • #12
                        They probably found him through his customers.
                        where does MS fit in?
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                        Co-Owner/Webmaster, Top40-Charts.com | CTO, Apogee Information Systems
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                        • #13
                          Microsoft Pirate Hunter

                          Sounds like a fun game. When's it coming out?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MarkG
                            They probably found him through his customers.
                            where does MS fit in?
                            Probably a few places. I'm willing to bet if the dude was pirating Symantec products, he was pirating Microsoft products as well.

                            Also, Microsoft is basically the lead organization in the BSA...
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by VetLegion
                              They probably found him through his customers.
                              I reckon they did it with undercover agents.

                              Currently the local triads are using a clever way to do this. First, you pay the $, and they give you a piece of paper with a number. Then you go to this other place in 30 minutes to pick up your acquisitions.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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