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    Teens: Sex, Drugs And Depression?


    "Findings from the study show depression came after substance and sexual activity, not the other way around."
    Denise Dion Hallfors
    Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation

    (WebMD) Depression may be the result rather than the cause of risky teen behaviors.

    A new study shows that teen sex or drug use raised the risk of depression a year later.

    Researchers say the results challenge the notion that teens become sexually active or engage in drug use to "self-medicate" their own depression.

    "Findings from the study show depression came after substance and sexual activity, not the other way around," says researcher Denise Dion Hallfors of the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, in a news release.

    Sex, Drugs Come First and Depression Follows

    In the study, published in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, researchers analyzed data from a national survey of more than 13,000 teenagers in grades seven to 11 who were interviewed in 1995 and again a year later.

    Overall, the results showed that sex and drug use was associated with an increased risk of depression by the second interview, but depression didn't predict risky behavior.

    Researchers say both drug experimentation and sexual activity were linked to an increased risk of future depression in teenaged girls. Among teenage boys, only high-risk behaviors, such as binge drinking, were associated with an increase in future depression.

    For example:
    # Girls who had experimented with drugs and sex were two to three times more likely to become depressed than those who abstained.
    # Boys who used marijuana were more than three times as likely to become depressed as nonusers.
    # Boys who engaged in binge drinking were nearly five times more likely to become depressed than abstainers.

    Depression Still Raises Risks

    Though depression did not influence risky behavior among teenaged boys, researchers found depression was related to behavior in some cases among teenage girls.

    Specifically, depression reduced the likelihood of high-risk behavior among girls who abstained from drug and alcohol use but increased the risk of these behaviors among girls already experimenting with drugs and alcohol.


    "For females, even modest involvement in substance use and sexual experimentation elevates depression risk," write the researchers. "In contrast, boys show little added risk with experimental behavior, but binge drinking and frequent use of marijuana contribute substantial risk."

    Researchers say the results show that experimentation with substance use and sex, along with other factors, such as dropping grades in school and social isolation, can be signs of depression in teenagers that parents and health care professionals should look out for.

    Identifying Teen Depression

    Young people with depression may have a hard time coping with everyday activities and responsibilities, have difficulty getting along with others, and suffer from low self-esteem.

    Depression is more than just having the "blues" now and then; it is a persistent condition.
    Here are some signs and symptoms of depression to look out for:
    # Frequent sadness, tearfulness, or crying
    # Hopelessness
    # Decreased interest in activities or inability to enjoy former favorite activities
    # Persistent boredom; low energy
    # Social isolation; poor communication
    # Low self-esteem and guilt
    # Extreme sensitivity to rejection or failure
    # Increased irritability, anger, or hostility
    # Difficulty with relationships
    # Frequent complaints of physical illness such as headaches and stomachaches
    # Frequent absences from school or poor performance in school
    # Poor concentration
    # A major change in eating and/or sleeping patterns
    # Talk of or efforts to run away from home
    # Thoughts or expressions of suicide or self-destructive behavior

    Sources: Hallfors, D. American Journal of Preventive Medicine, October 2005; vol 29. News release, Health Behavior News Service. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration.
    Nice proof - sex, especially amongs teenagers, gives depressions. Who cares about the fact that drugs is a very well known source for the same and probably is the only reason.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

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    Dang, forgot to give the link :

    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

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    • #3
      maybe bad sex

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      • #4
        well, I had depression for years and even tried to commit suicide before I tried marijuana at age 18...

        it's sad... these kinds of studies usually aren't objective and they twist the findings to fit their preconceived notions


        and sex causing depression?

        that's so ridiculous... 2 million years or so of human evolution should be proof enough that that is bull****... if sex caused humans to be depressed, then we would have killed off ourselves long ago...

        dumbasses

        One point these shrinks never address is that maybe people prone to depression are more likely to try marijuana BECAUSE THEY ARE DEPRESSED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WANT TO FEEL BETTER?

        EVER THINK OF THAT RETARDS?
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #5
          quick reply

          # Boys who used marijuana were more than three times as likely to become depressed as nonusers.
          # Boys who engaged in binge drinking were nearly five times more likely to become depressed than abstainers.


          "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
          "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bereta_Eder
            maybe bad sex
            I thought that you had fallen through that thin ice you where skating
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

            Steven Weinberg

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            • #7
              light as a feather

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              • #8
                # Boys who used marijuana were more than three times as likely to become depressed as nonusers.
                # Boys who engaged in binge drinking were nearly five times more likely to become depressed than abstainers.
                these statements are ambiguous...

                they mean nothing...

                according to what statistics?

                it could mean,

                0.05% boys are likely to be depressed, then marijuana users are 0.15% likely to be depressed

                that is 3 times likely...

                They manipulate language to distort the data making it seem worse than it is. Why not just present the raw facts and let people make up their own minds?

                And how big is this sample size?

                What methods did they use for this?

                Is this another one of those "studies" where they took 100 kids and asked if they smoked marijuana and then had them fill out "mood charts"?


                This looks like junk science to me.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #9
                  Very correctly they refer to depression as a 'permanent state'.
                  Yet the research only takes time over the period of one year. Looks a bit short to determine if they are really having a depression.

                  And what age are we talking about? grade 7 to 11? what's that? 12 to 18 or so?

                  During adolescence the world is being put upside down anyway, and it is precisly the age where you have to learn new boundaries. Offcourse you experiment with drugs and sex, it's the whole point of that phase.


                  I would be interested in a research that for instant answer some of the following questions:

                  What is the rate of depression of people who start experimenting with drugs and sex during their 20's as compared to those who started earlier and those who abstain still.
                  Same for 30's etc.

                  Without that data I guess it's hard to say if it's extra dangerous for teens.
                  "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
                  "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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                  • #10
                    Sava:

                    it's 13000 kids (read the bloody article )

                    And the fun part is that from this report that heavy drinking is worse for causing depressions than smoking pot


                    Another vague notion is the so-called 'high-risk' behaviour. Does having sex and drug-use fall in that category as well? If so, it's a self-fullfilling prophecy.
                    "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
                    "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by germanos
                      Sava:

                      it's 13000 kids (read the bloody article )
                      heh, I skimmed it... missed that part...

                      but still, they don't explain the methodology at all, or the stats and how they come up with these numbers
                      And the fun part is that from this report that heavy drinking is worse for causing depressions than smoking pot
                      exactly
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        If I drink milk, and then I'm diagnosed with lung cancer the next day, it must have been because of the milk!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #13
                          the cow to be precise. and most probably a british cow.

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                          • #14
                            no, a canadian cow
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #15
                              do canadians breed crazy cows too?

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