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    It occurred to me as I was sorting out the c.d.s the other day, and came across a Massive Attack release that had been issued when they had been urged by their record company to change their name to just 'Massive' during Gulf War I, that things were rather different in the Sixties and Seventies.


    Even groups such as Martha and the Vandellas and Archie Bell and the Drells could release, if not anti-war songs, then certainly songs that acknowledged the conflict was happening and still get airplay.

    In fact, Martha Reeves had a brother who served and died in Viet Nam- the subject of her single 'I'm So Proud', and Archie Bell was called up for service- so that he was unable to feature fully on the 1968 Drells' album 'Tighten Up', as he was wounded and not available for the album sessions.

    The sixties and seventies saw songs such as Zerben R. Hicks and the Dynamics' 'Lights Out' , J B Lenoir's 'Vietnam/Vietnam Blues' (featured on the compilation album 'Vietnam Blues'),Troy Seals' 'Mama Hold My Hand' about a young recruit waiting to be shipped out and worrying he'll never see his mother again.

    In the soul/jazz fusion vein, Terry Callier released 'Ho Tsing Mee' (A Song In The Sun) and Freda Payne released the uncompromisingly titled 'Bring The Boys Home'.






    Of course these days not only would the record company baulk at the prospect of songs like those, but they wouldn't get playlisted.


    Vietnam Through The Eyes Of Black America

    A Soldier’s Sad Story
    The Monitors Greetings (This is Uncle Sam)
    The Players He’ll be back
    William Bell Marching off to war
    Eddy G Giles & The Jive Five While I’m away (baby keep the faith)
    Big Amos Going to Vietnam
    Mike Williams Lonely Soldier
    Joe Tex I Believe I’m gonna make it
    Johnny & Jon Christmas in Vietnam
    Jimmy Holiday I’m gonna help hurry my brothers home
    James Carr Let’s face facts
    Zerben R Hicks & The Dynamics Lights Out
    Richard Barbary When Johnny Comes Marching Home
    Tiny Watkins A Soldier’s Sad Story
    Emmanuel Laskey A Letter from Vietnam
    Gloria Edwards Something you couldn’t write about
    Mel & Tim Mail Call Time
    The O’Jays There’s someone (waiting back home)
    Freda Payne Bring the Boys Home
    Edwin Starr Stop the War Now
    The Whispers POW – MIA
    Carla Whitney War
    Bill Withers I Can’t write left handed
    Curtis Mayfield Back to the world
    Swamp Dogg Sam Stone
    Attached Files
    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

  • #2
    Sympathy bump.

    I was thinking about this the other day. I'd have expected American conservatives to have created at least a few explicitly pro-war bands. Maybe they have, and I've just not heard of them.

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    • #3
      About pro-war music... Dolly Parton made some sort of "USA!!!!!11!11!1!!!111" cd on the war in Iraq. But she redeemed herself by mentioning her own WMD's in one of the songs
      Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
      And notifying the next of kin
      Once again...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hueij
        About pro-war music... Dolly Parton made some sort of "USA!!!!!11!11!1!!!111" cd on the war in Iraq. But she redeemed herself by mentioning her own WMD's in one of the songs
        Apparently, Dolly has made a point of singing 60's-era anti-war songs, like "Blowin' in the Wind," at her recent concerts...at least the one's up north, anyway.
        "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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        • #5
          It wasn't just Black people who wrote songs about the Vietnam war. I just take it for granted that everyone my age can sing along to this:

          Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
          Uncle Sam needs your help again.
          He's got himself in a terrible jam
          Way down yonder in Vietnam
          So put down your books and pick up a gun,
          We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.

          And it's one, two, three,
          What are we fighting for ?
          Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
          Next stop is Vietnam;
          And it's five, six, seven,
          Open up the pearly gates,
          Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
          Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

          Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
          Your big chance has come at last.
          Gotta go out and get those reds —
          The only good commie is the one who's dead
          And you know that peace can only be won
          When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.

          And it's one, two, three,
          What are we fighting for ?
          Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
          Next stop is Vietnam;
          And it's five, six, seven,
          Open up the pearly gates,
          Well there ain't no time to wonder why
          Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

          Huh!

          Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow,
          Why man, this is war au-go-go.
          There's plenty good money to be made
          By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade,
          Just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
          They drop it on the Viet Cong.

          And it's one, two, three,
          What are we fighting for ?
          Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
          Next stop is Vietnam.
          And it's five, six, seven,
          Open up the pearly gates,
          Well there ain't no time to wonder why
          Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

          Well, come on mothers throughout the land,
          Pack your boys off to Vietnam.
          Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
          Send 'em off before it's too late.
          Be the first one on your block
          To have your boy come home in a box.

          And it's one, two, three
          What are we fighting for ?
          Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
          Next stop is Vietnam.
          And it's five, six, seven,
          Open up the pearly gates,
          Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
          Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
          Country Joe and the Fish: I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag

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          • #6

            Universal Soldier
            Artistonovan Leitch

            He is five foot two,
            anbd he's six feet four,
            he fights with missiles and with spears,
            he is all of thirty-one,
            and he's only seventeen,
            he's been a soldier for thousands years.

            He's a Catholic, a Hindu,
            an atheist, A Jain,
            A Budhist, a Baptist and a Jew,
            and he knows, he shouldn't kill,
            and he knows, he always will,
            kill for me, my friend, and kill me for you.

            And he's fighting for Canada,
            he's fighting for France,
            he's fighting for the USA
            and he's fighting for the Russains,
            he's fihgting for Japan,
            and he thinks we put an end to war this way.

            And he's fighting for democracy,
            he's fighting for the Reds,
            he says it's for the peace of all,
            he's the one who must decide,
            who's to live and who's to die,
            and he never sees the writing on the wall.

            And without him, how would Hitler
            kill the people at Dachau,
            without him Caesar would have stood alone,
            he's the one, who gives his body
            as a weapon of the war,
            and without him all the killing cant go on.

            He's the universal soldier,
            and he really is to blame,
            his orders came from far away, no more,
            they came from here and there,
            and they come for you and me,
            this is not the way we put an end to war.



            The Unknown Soldier
            The Doors

            Wait until the war is over
            And we're both a little older
            The unknown soldier
            Breakfast where the news is read
            Television children fed
            Unborn living, living, dead
            Bullet strikes the helmet's head
            And it's all over
            For the unknown soldier
            It's all over
            For the unknown soldier
            Hut
            Hut
            Hut ho hee up
            Hut
            Hut
            Hut ho hee up
            Hut
            Hut
            Hut ho hee up
            Comp'nee
            Halt
            Preeee-zent!
            Arms!
            Make a grave for the unknown soldier
            Nestled in your hollow shoulder
            The unknown soldier
            Breakfast where the news is read
            Television children fed
            Bullet strikes the helmet's head
            And, it's all over
            The war is over
            It's all over
            The war is over
            Well, all over, baby
            All over, baby
            Oh, over, yeah
            All over, baby
            Wooooo, hah-hah
            All over
            All over, baby
            Oh, woa-yeah
            All over
            All over
            Heeeeyyyy
            Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
            Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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            • #7
              Slayer: Mandatory Suicide

              Murder at your every foot step.
              A child's toy sudden death.
              Sniper blazes you thru your knees
              Falling down can you feel the heat,
              Burn!

              Ambushed by the spray of lead
              Count the bullet holes in your head.
              Offspring sent out to cry,
              Living mandatory suicide.
              Suicide. [x 4]

              Holes burn deep in your chest,
              Raped by machine gun fire.
              Screaming soul sent out to die,
              Living mandatory suicide.
              Suicide. [x 4]

              [Spoken:]
              Lying, dying, screaming in pain.
              Begging, pleading, bullets drop like rain.
              Mines explode, pain sheers through your brain,
              Radical amputation, this is insane.

              Fly swatter stakes drive through your chest.
              Spikes impale you as you're forced off the crest.
              Soldier of misfortune
              Hunting with bated breath.

              A vile smell, like tasting death.
              Dead bodies, dying and wounded
              Litter the city streets
              Shattered glass, bits of clothing and human deceit.
              Dying [in] terror,
              Blood's cheap, it's everywhere.
              Mandatory suicide, massacre on the front line.
              Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
              Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
              Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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              • #8
                Cobra on my left, Leopard on my right.
                Out of sight!
                He's got the Midas touch.
                But he touched it too much!
                Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                • #9
                  The deer woman in a silk dress
                  Girls with beads around their necks
                  Kiss the hunter of the green vest
                  Who has wrestled before
                  With lions in the night
                  Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                  Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by alva
                    The deer woman in a silk dress
                    Girls with beads around their necks
                    Kiss the hunter of the green vest
                    Who has wrestled before
                    With lions in the night


                    Morrison hated that song, he thought it was too cheesy. But I always liked it, the poem is cool and the music is just cheesy enough.
                    He's got the Midas touch.
                    But he touched it too much!
                    Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                    • #11
                      Different war, different music.

                      Here's another war and another kinda music.

                      Der Fuehrer's Face
                      Spike Jones and the City Slickers

                      When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
                      We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
                      Not to love Der Fuehrer is a great disgrace
                      So we HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
                      When Herr Gobbels says, "We own der world und space"
                      We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Goring's face
                      When Herr Goring says they'll never bomb this place
                      We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Goring's face

                      Are we not the supermen
                      Aryan pure supermen
                      Ja we ist der supermen
                      Super-duper supermen
                      Ist this Nutzi land not good?
                      Would you leave it if you could?
                      Ja this Nutzi land is good!
                      Vee would leave it if we could

                      We bring the world to order
                      Heil Hitler's world New Order
                      Everyone of foreign race will love Der Fuehrer's face
                      When we bring to der world disorder

                      When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
                      We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
                      When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
                      We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuhrer's face

                      It loses something without the rasberrys.
                      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                      If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                      Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                      • #12
                        And Donald Duck.
                        I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Peter Triggs
                          It wasn't just Black people who wrote songs about the Vietnam war. I just take it for granted that everyone my age can sing along to this:

                          And it certainly wasn't my intention to suggest that- and I don't believe I implied it either.

                          But I suspect a lot of people didn't know about the Martha Reeves song for her brother, nor realized that while some people were guarding liquor shops in the Deep South, singers in soul bands were actually seeing combat in Viet Nam.

                          There's even a soul music cover of Neil Young's 'Ohio' somewhere (I forget off the top of my head by whom), but it certainly was interesting to me to see how many singers and groups not necessarily associated with 'protest' music actually contributed, either by memorializing their own service in the war, or by commemorating the part played by a relative or friend.
                          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                          • #14
                            FORTUNATE SON

                            Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
                            ooh, they're red, white and blue.
                            And when the band plays "Hail To The Chief",
                            oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,

                            It ain't me, it ain't me,
                            I ain't no senator's son,
                            It ain't me, it ain't me,
                            I ain't no fortunate one, no,

                            Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
                            Lord, why don't they help themselves? oh.
                            But when the taxman come to the door,
                            Lord, the house look a like a rummage sale, yes,

                            It ain't me, it ain't me,
                            I ain't no millionaire's son.
                            It ain't me, it ain't me,
                            I ain't no fortunate one, no.

                            Yeh, some folks inherit star spangled eyes,
                            ooh, they send you down to war, Lord,
                            And when you ask them, how much should we give,
                            oh, they only answer, more, more, more, yoh,

                            It ain't me, it ain't me,
                            I ain't no military son,
                            It ain't me, it ain't me,
                            I ain't no fortunate one,

                            It ain't me, it ain't me,
                            I ain't no fortunate one, no no no,
                            It ain't me, it ain't me,
                            I ain't no fortunate son, no no no,


                            - John C, Fogerty
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #15
                              The Vietnam War Song Page
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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