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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
    Have folks becoms so vain that they need to change everything about their bodies??? I have to say yes God This craze is out of hand. I recently went to a new surgery center and was to be working with a new Dr that specalizes in no other then, plastic surgery of a womens female parts. I was like wtf?? who the hell can see down there and who cares??? I dunno have we reached the level of complete lunacy to be so vain as to actually care what that your labias and female parts look beautiful?? I feel for the lady I hope she gets what she is entitled to
    Thats what I was talking about when saying cosmetical surgery has got a bad name.

    There are thousands of victims of burns, damage and birth defects that really gets a better life through this kind of treatment.

    Unfortunatedly, such treatments aren't cheap, and when a show like this says it will pay and then backs off because of "bad timing", I'm starting to look for matches and good dry wood.

    I admit that the reactions described in to OT is pretty weird, but the show shouldn't make promises they don't intend to fulfill.

    * Ah, found my matches
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    • #17
      That's fricken despicable. I hate all these shows like "Extreme Makeover", "The Swan", etc etc. Their all pieces of crap. I especially hate how so many men and women in American society get sucked into it even if they don't agree.

      It's all about, 'so long as it makes them feel better about themselves, it's ok' bull****e. I think you gotta fix the inside of the person before you fix the outside. Buying a set of boobs or fixing your butt because it hangs a bit is too much.

      If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But if it IS broke, then I can agree (hairlip, holes in your cheek, stuff like that).



      ABC should be fined. The producers should be fired, jailed, and blacklisted from television...as well as having their property seized, liquidated and turned over to the woman. I really hope this person gets a smackload of money and wins this suit.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by rah
        Even though it didn't fit into their time frame, they could still have done the make over and just not aired it. Lord knows they make enough money on these thing.

        While I suspect the family to be exageratting things a touch for effect, I hope they get a good settlement and they use it to get this woman the make over she was promised.


        Exactly. Just do the surgery and if they want to, save the footage and make it into some kind of "special event" program or whatever. But they didn't do that.

        Horrible.
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        • #19
          @Frankychan : You apparently haven't seen the show - the main jobs isn't boob jobs - at least not those I have seen - it has mainly been facials and not nessacarily surgery.
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          • #20
            Like the plastic surgery was too tight for the budget, even if they canceled the show, they could have at least given her the surgery...

            And btw, I don't know much about it, but do people really want to hear this "she was soo damn ugly stuff?" I'd turn off immediately.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BlackCat
              @Frankychan : You apparently haven't seen the show - the main jobs isn't boob jobs - at least not those I have seen - it has mainly been facials and not nessacarily surgery.
              I watched one of these kind of shows...well I watched the first half an hour. The lady they had on wasn't a 10, I'll admit, but she didn't need excessive surgery.

              I think all she needed was dental reconstruction cause her teeth really were in need of getting fixed. Her nose wasn't crooked, her posture wasn't haggardly, but she was a little chunky.

              But that bodyfat can be fixed with diet and exercise.

              I HAVE seen those previews of the next show thing they use for commericals, most of the women don't really need all that crazy surgery...just fix what's broken. Not overhaul the whole damned car.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Frankychan
                That's fricken despicable. I hate all these shows like "Extreme Makeover", "The Swan", etc etc. Their all pieces of crap. I especially hate how so many men and women in American society get sucked into it even if they don't agree.

                It's all about, 'so long as it makes them feel better about themselves, it's ok' bull****e. I think you gotta fix the inside of the person before you fix the outside. Buying a set of boobs or fixing your butt because it hangs a bit is too much.

                If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But if it IS broke, then I can agree (hairlip, holes in your cheek, stuff like that).

                ABC should be fined. The producers should be fired, jailed, and blacklisted from television...as well as having their property seized, liquidated and turned over to the woman. I really hope this person gets a smackload of money and wins this suit.
                Franky chan I wasnt talking about the womans butt. This surgeon does plastic surgery on the front side of the butt. That is to ignorant if u ask me. I dont understand the whole concept, How does a new set of boobs make a woman happy??? I have accepted my flaws and feel if you dont like me for the charming thing I am Then the hell with ya
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski

                  Franky chan I wasnt talking about the womans butt. This surgeon does plastic surgery on the front side of the butt. That is to ignorant if u ask me. I dont understand the whole concept, How does a new set of boobs make a woman happy??? I have accepted my flaws and feel if you dont like me for the charming thing I am Then the hell with ya
                  Oh, sorry I wasn't angry cause of you. The surgeon you discussed is full of it, IMO. I mean, again, if he's fixing broken stuff down there then I think it's ok. But if he's just tending stuff to make it look nicer, that's bogus crap.

                  I was talking to this one girl about plastic surgery and she said, to paraphrase, this:
                  A girl is a little on the small side, feels self-conscious about it, and decides to get a boobjob. Now, she's confident, has sex appeal, and goes out on dates. Doesn't that justify getting a boobjob? So long as she's happy right?
                  I replied:
                  That bullsh**. I think she has to work on her own feelings and learn to be self confident from within, not buying some $2,000 fake things to implant under her skin. If she needs to buy something to boost her esteem, somethings not right. When she gets older she's gonna look like a freak.
                  Then I went on to say stuff about how I hate fake boobs and all that jazz. This girl didn't agree with me at all cause she thought that so long as it makes the person happy then its fine.



                  But I still think yer the best, Mrs. Tuber.
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                  • #24
                    These types of modifications aren't for strong women like you. It's for the weak ones that can't accept themselves. But I would be willing to bet that you're not as bad off as some of these women are. (my wife watches the swan) The one thing that I liked about that show was that the makeover included therapy.
                    Some of the women were in desperate need of that.
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                    • #25
                      I know u wernt angry with me. I agree with you 100 percent (I am the ****tte) No I am kidding. You can fix the outside all you want but if you dont like the inside all you are is a pretty box with no cool present inside.
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                      • #26
                        ABC no bengoshi desu.
                        Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

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                        • #27
                          the woman in question



                          I personally don't think she's ugly, but the photo isn't good enough to tell really.
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                          • #28
                            While I think there actions were reprehensible, I am not sure if they did anything actionable. This comes out of the fact that none of us know what the actual contract, if any, between the parties looked like.

                            Generally a promise to give someone something for free is not enforceable so any contract claim would have to accept that the offensive interviews were given as consideration for the makeover. ABC could conceivably lose on those grounds depending on what was said.

                            But the death of a sister? ABC is responsible for that how?? Was she powerless to stop evil producers from making her say stuff? Did she not have the ability to later say " Sis you know that stuff isn't true . . . but they said the worse I made things sound the better the show".

                            I can't see where they did anything that would generally qualify as a tort unless you believe that they intentionally did things designed to cause mental suffering. So the remedies, if any, would have to come from broken promises.

                            I agree that their conduct here is apalling in many ways but then again many rude things are NOT actionable. Example: A sleeps with B's wife and and B upon hearing that he was a "lousy lay" committs suicide. B's children by a prior relationship sue A and B's wife. Any legal action?? Terrible conduct that causes someone upset in both cases.
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                            • #29
                              OH that is such a good point flubber Choice method of suicide Cocaine and alochol Dam that makes her suicide look a lot suspicious
                              When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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                              • #30
                                Re: the woman in question

                                Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                                I personally don't think she's ugly, but the photo isn't good enough to tell really.
                                Quite agree - no reason to look the other way or run away screaming. She actually looks kind of cute.

                                Still, the tv comp make a promise and breaks it - keeps on collecting wood.
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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