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  • Canadians are tree-huggers?





    Guess you missed the part where Greenpeace keeps protesting us for clubbing seals, clearcut logging etc.
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    • British, Commonwealth.. He was the only foreigner to receive the honour.

      From The London Gazette:

      Friday, 7 September, 1945

      The KING has been graciously pleased to approve the posthumous award of the VICTORIA CROSS to:

      Major (temporary) Anders Frederik Emil Victor Schau LASSEN, M.C. (234907), General List.

      In Italy, on the night of 8th/9th April, 1945, Major Lassen was ordered to take out a patrol of one officer and seventeen other ranks to raid the north side of Lake Comacchio.

      His tasks were to cause as many casulties and as much confusion as possible, to give the impression of a major landing, and to capture prisoners. No previous reconnaissance was possible, and the party found itself on a narrow road flanked on both sides by water.

      Preceded by two scouts, Major Lassen led his men along the road towards the town. They were challenged after approximately 500 yards from a position on the side of the road. An attempt to allay suspicion by answering that they were fishermen returning home failed, for when moving forward again to overpower the sentry, machine gun fire started from the position, and also from two other blockhouses to the rear.

      Major Lassen himself then attacked with grenades, and annihilated the first position containing four Germans and two machine guns. Ignoring the hail of bullets sweeping the road from three enemy positions, an additional one having come into action from 300 yards down the road, he raced forward to engage the second position under covering fire from the remainder of the force. Throwing in more grenades he silenced this position which was then overrun by his patrol. Two enemies were killed, two captured and two more machine guns silenced.

      By this time the force had suffered casualties and its fire power was very considerably reduced. Still under a heavy cone of fire Major Lassen rallied and reorganised his force and brought his fire to bear on the third position. Moving forward himself he flung in more grenades which produced a cry of "Kamerad". He then went forward to within three or four yards of the position to order the enemy outside, and to take their surrender.

      Whilst shouting to them to come out he was hit by a burst of spandau fire from the left of the position and he fell mortally wounded, but even whilst falling he flung a grenade, wounding some of the occupants and enabling his patrol to dash in and capture this final position.

      Major Lassen refused to be evacuated as he said it would impede the withdrawal and endanger further lives, and as ammunition was nearly exhausted the force had to withdraw.

      By his magnificent leadership and complete disregard for his personal safety, Major Lassen had, in the face of overwhelming superiority, achieved his objectives. Three positions were wiped out, accounting for six machine guns, killing eight and wounding others of the enemy and two prisoners were taken. The high sense of devotion to duty and the esteem in which he was held by the men he led, added to his own magnificent courage, enabled Major Lassen to carry out all the tasks he had been given with complete success.
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      • We also use more oil per capita than the US does, and are a major petro-supplier...
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • On the serious side, danes actions in WWII could be considered confusing.

          Although it was illegal, approx 2000 volounteers went to finland to fight against ussr, another 550 went to spain to fight franco.

          The danish ambassador in us ignored messages from home and allowed us forces to enter greenland.

          Most danish merchant fleet that wasn't caught at home entered allied service.

          And then there are those 12.000 volunteers that entered german service. Many may have been nazis, but I guess that the main reason for joining was to fight soviet. The real hardcore nazis typically joined the Schalbourg corps that was busy harassing local danes - when the resistance blew up a factory, the scahlbourg corps blew up some popular place.

          I guess that it's a lot easier to get voluteers when you occupy a country - I guess that recruitment officers could have found several in UK, Canada, US etc, but the environment could make it a little difficult to make it effective
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
            Canadians are tree-huggers?





            Guess you missed the part where Greenpeace keeps protesting us for clubbing seals, clearcut logging etc.
            Oh, I certainly don't think that you are tree-huggers for environment purposes - it's more a question of that there isn't anything else to give hug
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

            Steven Weinberg

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            • I agree that Finland is probably slim pickins.
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
              Ultima Ratio Regum

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              • Speaking of the Danish Resistance, while it could be regarded as long in the making, I recall Winston Churchill referring to it as second to none.

                Overall, I think our countrymen of the time offered way more opposition to German forces than anyone could reasonably expect, given the difficult circumstances in which the country found itself.

                Although I will not go into it further, I will say I have second-hand personal testimony to back this up.

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                • Must be so if Churchill once said it. Makes it a FACT now.
                  In da butt.
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                  • Originally posted by BlackCat

                    snip

                    And then there are those 12.000 volunteers that entered german service. Many may have been nazis, but I guess that the main reason for joining was to fight soviet.

                    snip
                    Offcourse being Nazi was largely about being anti-soviet...
                    "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
                    "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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                    • Originally posted by germanos


                      Offcourse being Nazi was largely about being anti-soviet...
                      Nope, certainly not. Being nazi was, well, being nazi, but the main recruitment argument was to fight soviet.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • Join the British Free Corps

                        It counted 27 men at its peak.
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                        • Originally posted by BlackCat


                          Nope, certainly not. Being nazi was, well, being nazi, but the main recruitment argument was to fight soviet.
                          Nope, National Socialism is a direct response to the emergence of the Soviet Union post WWI. The NSDAP is a direct counter-offensive to stop the soviets spreading east.
                          "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
                          "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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                          • 12000 Danes? There were "only" 5000 Norwegian volunteers.
                            I don't care if they did it to fight the commies or whatever their reasons were. Joining the armed forces of the enemy is treason no matter what.
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                            • What did you guys do with Quisling after the war, anyway?

                              (Only Norwegian to have his name become an English word, AFAIK)
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • Originally posted by germanos


                                Nope, National Socialism is a direct response to the emergence of the Soviet Union post WWI. The NSDAP is a direct counter-offensive to stop the soviets spreading east.
                                Two things wrong.

                                I really don't think that germans was very concerned about what happened in the east of the soviet union.

                                Secondly, NSDAP wasn't anything else than the power base that hitler used to control germany. Actually the prime person/organisation to blame for the iron curtain is hitler/NSDAP.

                                Actually, both the nazi and the soviet regime was of the same bad ilk.
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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