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    Apple failed to do due diligence in trade secret case

    9/14/2005 6:18:29 PM, by Ken "Caesar" Fisher


    Documents (PDF) unsealed in Californian state court suggest that Apple failed to comply with the state laws when they legally pressed AppleInsider and PowerPage to reveal their sources. In March of this year a judge ruled that the websites will have to cough up the names of their confidential sources in response to lawsuits filed by Apple over product leaks. The sites had reported insider information in December 2004 on a supposedly upcoming product from Apple called "Asteroid," which some people believe is a FireWire audio interface for GarageBand.

    Apple's lawyers immediately went after the sites, subpoenaing them to reveal their sources. The defendants responded that they were journalists, and were protected by California's shield law.

    Apple argued, in part, that the defendants violated the Uniform Trade Secrets Act (USTA), through the "acquisition of a trade secret of another person who knows or has reason to know that the the trade secret was acquired by improper means." However, Apple looks to have jumped the gun, and gone straight for the jugular without checking in on their own employees. According to Californian law, Apple could only subpoena the journalists in question after having conducted a thorough in-house investigation. The EFF, which is defending the journalists in question, says that Apple dropped the ball.

    "The First Amendment requires that compelled disclosure from journalists be a last resort," said EFF Staff Attorney Kurt Opsahl. "Apple must first investigate its own house before seeking to disturb the freedom of the press."

    It appears that Apple has adopted a shoot-first, ask questions later approach to dealing with rumors sites. The company took no depositions, required no oaths from its employees, and failed to subpoena anyone related to the company or the development of the device in question.

    Now the public can examine this new information, which clearly shows that the only computer forensics conducted by Apple were a search of Apple's email servers and a rudimentary examination of a single file server. Apple did not examine employees' individual work computers or other devices capable of storing or transmitting electronic information, examine any telephone records, look at copy machines, or otherwise investigate the possibility that information about "Asteroid" was transmitted by means other than email. Moreover, as public documents already showed, Apple did not even obtain sworn statements from employees who had access to the leaked "Asteroid" specs.

    This is particularly alarming because Apple had attempted to argue that their internal investigatory procedures were trade secrets themselves. It looks like the secret was that they didn't do anything.

    What's next? It's not clear, but I would expect that the arguments may now turn to the question of whether or not the defendants qualify as journalists, something that has largely been sidestepped so far.


    Remember, kids, Microsoft's EVIL.
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    Asher in 3...2...1....
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    • #3
      ...liftoff
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • #4
        ...aaaaand crash down
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          Apple's motion to dismiss denied in antitrust case

          By AppleInsider Staff
          Published: 03:20 PM EST

          A federal court last week denied Apple's motion to dismiss an antitrust suit brought by a disgruntled iTunes Music Store customer, AppleInsider has discovered.

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          In January, Thomas Slattery filed a class action suit against Apple in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, alleging that the company is violating federal antitrust laws and California's unfair competition law by requiring that customers use an iPod in order to listen to music purchased from its industry-leading iTunes Music Store.

          In the 9-page ruling dated Sept. 9th, United States District Judge James Ware did side with Apple in dismissing a few individual claims. Specifically, Ware threw out a claim arguing that Apple has been unjustly enriched from sales of iTunes and iPods. The Judge also dismissed two claims of attempted monopolization against the iPod maker, but granted Slattery and his attorneys a month to amend the two arguments.

          However, the judge denied Apple's overall motion for a dismissal in the case and is allowing Slattery to proceed with seven of his ten original claims. These include allegations that Apple possesses monopoly power and has coerced customers into purchasing both iPods and iTunes files. Slattery also argues that Apple has violated state law under the Cartwright Act and California's unfair competition law.

          Antitrust lawyers have said the key to such a lawsuit would be convincing a court that a single product brand like iTunes is a market in itself, separate from the rest of the online music market.

          The court is requiring Slattery to file an amended complain on or before Oct. 11th. Apple will then have 15 days to respond.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #6
            I don't understand..there are many different online music stores: MSN Music, Sony, even Wal-Mart has one. How is it that an iTunes song that will only work with an iPod is any different from software that only works on a certain OS?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Verto
              I don't understand..there are many different online music stores: MSN Music, Sony, even Wal-Mart has one. How is it that an iTunes song that will only work with an iPod is any different from software that only works on a certain OS?
              Because Apple has intentionally gone out of its way to actively lock out any competition by making other devices incompatible, even if they manager to get their devices to work with the store (ie, Real).
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Asher

                Because Apple has intentionally gone out of its way to actively lock out any competition by making other devices incompatible, even if they manager to get their devices to work with the store (ie, Real).
                So?

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                  Don't you agree that is blatantly anticompetitive, especially for a company bragging about their enormous marketshare?
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #10
                    So the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      Don't you agree that is blatantly anticompetitive, especially for a company bragging about their enormous marketshare?
                      iTunes and the iPod were built for each other. People have no reason to ***** because they willingly chose to download a song from the iTunes Music Store, knowing that it wouldn't work on their MP3 Player, when he could have chosen from a multitude of other stores. This is just some little **** looking for some easy $$$.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Verto
                        iTunes and the iPod were built for each other. People have no reason to ***** because they willingly chose to download a song from the iTunes Music Store, knowing that it wouldn't work on their MP3 Player, when he could have chosen from a multitude of other stores. This is just some little **** looking for some easy $$$.
                        Apple has actively worked to obtain exclusives to the iTMS (ie, Madonna). They then actively worked to lock out other players from accessing content downloaded from the store. They then keep throwing ads in peoples faces in iTunes to go get the iPod, because its the only player that will work.

                        That is textbook anticompetitive behavior, which is illegal. Apple has been up to this same **** for decades, but until now its never had the marketshare with any product to get busted for it.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Asher

                          Apple has actively worked to obtain exclusives to the iTMS (ie, Madonna). They then actively worked to lock out other players from accessing content downloaded from the store. They then keep throwing ads in peoples faces in iTunes to go get the iPod, because its the only player that will work.

                          That is textbook anticompetitive behavior, which is illegal. Apple has been up to this same **** for decades, but until now its never had the marketshare with any product to get busted for it.
                          ZOMFG! Not exclusives! And they dare to advertise for their products!

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                          • #14
                            The problem isn't with exclusives, it's the compounded factor that they also actively lock other devices out at the same time.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              Sort of like releasing "updates" to their OS that f*ck other people's programs, but have no effect on the MS equivalents. Oops, that's different.

                              But Apple uses cooler OS names. I'd rather have a Panther than a Longhorn. As you know, IMHO a pox on both their houses, heeeere comes Gentoo - which is a cool name too, sounds like a character at the MosEisley Bar.
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