Teen jailed in road rage incident.

[Kaak]

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--roadrage0913sep13,0,7512723,print.story?coll=ny-region-apnewjersey

Basically, this is the story. 17 y.o. cuts off 53 y.o. man. Man follows teen home. teen get out of car, tries to cross the street to his house, man hits teen with car. Teen then walks to the drivers window and punches man twice. Man loses consciousness, never regains it, later dies. Teen goes to jail.

Okay call me crazy, but i think it should be a universal maxim that if someone intentionally hits another person with a car, the injured party should be able to punch the aggressor at least twice without having to go to jail for it. just MHO

[Frankychan]

The man got what he deserved.

That would be intentional vehicular homicide.
Assault with a deadly weapon
Reckless endangerment
etc etc.

I'm supporting the teen.

[Mr. Harley]

I hope the prosecutor does not decide to make this boy an example. Two punches at somebody who just hit me with a car? That's what concealed carry and a 9mm is for, and if I'm still on the ground it will, in most states, be a good shoot.

[KrazyHorse]

That's ridiculous.

[Ted Striker]

Sounds like they are treating this as a "one punch homicide."

[DaShi]

I don't see what the problem is. According to the article he wasn't sent to jail, but to a juvenile detention center where he'll await trial a few days later.

The only reason this is being treated so seriously is because a man died in the incident. I'd be surprised, if the court did find him guilty and sent him to jail.

[Provost Harrison]

The man was obviously a super-lightweight I certainly don't see how this is classed as murder as I think anyone would snap at that point...diminished responsibility...

[Wernazuma III]

I don't know, I'd like to know more. Did the teen practice martial arts? If yes, he might possess the ability to hit lethally on purpose. In mean, of course the other man tried to kill him first, but such a detail would certainly change the case considerably.

[Mao]

Wait...so the kid gets up after being run over with the car, and the guy just waits patiently for him to come over and punch him twice? wtf?

[Immortal Wombat]

The 53 year old being in the wrong does not make the 17 year old in the right. Go inside, call the cops. Hitting someone is stupid, especially when you're a three hundred pound football player.

[KrazyHorse]

Horse****. He just hit you with his car intentionally. Fighting back is a reasonable response. Going inside is also a reasonable response. Once you put somebody in a situation where they are in reasonable fear of their life, it's up to them to decide which of these two reasonable responses they'll employ. The guy was still in his car. He remained a threat. Walking away might not have appeared the safest thing to do, as he was obviously a homicidal maniac.

[OzzyKP]

The old guy was asking for it. Tragic he died though... but yea, the teen should get off.

[Richelieu]

Everybody loses.

[Mr. Harley]

BTW - getting a 300 pound athlete into an adrenalin surge as you try to run over him with your car (and HIT him), and then staying there - definitely puts you in the running for a Darwin award. Do you know how much force that first punch could have had.

[SlowwHand]

You bring up a good point, Kaak.
We always hear of someone shooting, running off the road, following, other people due to road rage.
My question is, how often has the alleged "victim" provoked other individuals similarly by being a TOTAL DUMBASS?

This also brings to mind that, rather than lengthening the duration of a driver's license, more tests need to be given.

It's not a right that you have to drive. It's a convenience for people.
Can't drive properly, walk your ass everywhere if have to.
That's not my problem.
Cut me off and force me off the road by piss poor driving, thus enraging me, now I have a problem my problem.

The teenager was a jackass, and needs to be locked up.
This is of course based on the assumption the 53 year old was observing the rules of the road, including driving the speed limit.

People driving 20 mph in a 40 mph zone, in ideal conditions, now fall under the instigator umbrella.