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  • #16
    Penny-wise, pound-foolish. Finishing all the flood control and dikes in New Orleans would have cost slightly over 20 billion dollars, if memory serves me correctly. And how much are we spending now on disaster relief?

    Look at programs to help children. Evening programs, like basketball financed through and staffed by law enforcement officers have been shown to reduce juvenile crime rates from what I understand. It has been shown clearly that a juvenile's involvement in crime is a clear indicator that they will continue to commit crimes as an adult. Yet those programs have been killed.

    Let me get this straight. No-bid corportate contracts, and large subsidies, are good for the economy. Keeping children in areas of deep poverty off the street and doing something constructive, all the while creating excellent public relation between the police and the community (resulting in fewer shootings of officers), is a waste of money, when nationwide those programs can be funded for millions and the cost of one convict for one year runs roughly $30,000 - and we are incarcerating more and more people.
    The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
    And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
    Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
    Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Gatekeeper
      Hmm ... why is the U.S. Geological Survey classified as pork? Last time I checked, there were a fair number of faults, volcanoes and other assorted geology-related things running through the U.S., some of which were (ahem) active.
      Not to mention all the valuable terrain data for video games.
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      There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
      Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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      • #18
        Let me get this straight. No-bid corportate contracts, and large subsidies, are good for the economy.
        They are if the legislators have large amount of shares of the subsidized corporations.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by shawnmmcc
          Finishing all the flood control and dikes in New Orleans would have cost slightly over 20 billion dollars, if memory serves me correctly.
          IIRC, that money was for the entire delta region. I think New Orleans levies were about $85 million to upgrade from withstanding a Categore 3 to a Category 5.

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          • #20
            Thanks Zkribbler, I was drawing from memory and couldn't remember the exact context.
            The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
            And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
            Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
            Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rah
              I'm embaressed to be a republican when I hear total crap like that. And I vote both also
              You vote for total crap?
              I'm consitently stupid- Japher
              I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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              • #22
                Boy, wouldn't it be nice if say, the govt had a surplus to use in the event of an emergency or recession?
                I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                • #23
                  Blasphemer, blasphemer - burn the heretic.
                  The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
                  And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
                  Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
                  Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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                  • #24
                    Douche hats reside in the senate as well:




                    Ready? Cue the Sun...
                    By DAVID BROOKS

                    Arlen Specter Welcome to Day 3 of the confirmation hearings of John Roberts. I'd like to take this opportunity to remind the nation of what a wonderful job I'm doing chairing this committee, and I'd like to let the ranking member tell me so.

                    Patrick Leahy Absolutely, Mr. Chairman! And let me kick off this morning's platitudes about the grandeur of our Constitution by quoting its first three words, "We the People." That means that here in America the people rule - except on issues like abortion, where their opinions don't mean spit.

                    Specter Very well put, Senator Leahy! And welcome Judge Roberts back before our committee.

                    John Roberts Jr. Aw, shucks. This has been a humbling experience, Mr. Chairman. To think that a boy from an exclusive prep school and Harvard Law could grow up and be nominated for the Supreme Court - it shows how in America it's possible to rise from privilege to power! That's the hallmark of our great nation.

                    So while, of course, I can't talk about specific cases, or any emotions, weather patterns or sandwich meats that may come before the Supreme Court at any time between now and my death in 2048, I do want to reiterate that I feel humbled by this experience. I feel humbled that my wife is dozing off behind me. I feel humbled by this committee's inability to lay a glove on me. And I feel modest. You see this suit? I skinny-dip in this suit. That's how modest I feel.

                    Tom Coburn Well put, Judge Roberts. Yet when I think of the polarization that still divides this great nation ... waaaahhhh ... waaaahhhh. (Senator Coburn breaks down weeping.)

                    Jeff Sessions This may be a good moment to remind my colleagues on the other side of the aisle that in this country unelected judges don't write the laws. We have unelected lobbyists to do that. Under our system, judges merely interpret the law and decide presidential elections.

                    Specter Senator Sessions, let me interrupt you right there. We're not here to argue among ourselves and ignore the nominee. We're here to deliver 30-minute speeches disguised as questions and ignore the nominee. So let me turn to Senator Bid - -

                    Coburn And when I think of the flaws in the reconciliation process! And the gerrymandering! Oh, the suffering! Oh, the humanity! Waaaahhhh ... waaaahhhh. (Senator Coburn collapses and is taken back to his office on a stretcher.)

                    Specter As I was saying, Senator Biden, you have the floor.

                    Joseph Biden Jr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thought this might be a good moment to give the committee a complete history of my heroic sponsorship of the Violence Against Women Act, but before I do that I'd like to interrupt myself by mentioning that I ride the train every day, often speaking with regular Americans, but before I do that I'd like to interrupt my interruption of myself by asking the chairman to restrain the nominee. During my first round of questioning, the nominee continually interrupted my questions by trying to give answers. I could barely keep up my train of thought on stare decisis.

                    Edward Kennedy Starry De Cysis? Didn't she do a fan dance down at that old burlesque house in Providence?

                    Roberts Mr. Chairman, I certainly don't mean to draw attention to myself, for, as I have said, judges are like umpires - not home plate umpires, but those umpires stuck way out by the right-field foul pole. Nobody ever went to a game to watch the umpires.

                    But as you know, Judge Ginsburg, during her confirmation hearing, had herself wrapped in duct tape for fear that any involuntary reflex gestures she might make would mar her impartiality in deciding cases later on. Following her example, I have decided to spend the rest of these hearings in a soundproof booth, sunk in a tank of ravenous sharks and accompanied only by the illusionist David Copperfield. But before I go into isolation, I would like to mention the intense modesty I feel at this moment, notwithstanding the fact that not a single one of you slobs could have charged $700 an hour the way I did in private practice.

                    Richard Durbin Judge Roberts, before you go, one of the ways we in the Senate prove our superior souls is by emoting mawkish sentimentality on cue. Would you please emote sadness and pain on behalf of politically powerful but downtrodden groups?

                    Roberts I am emoting, senator.
                    He's got the Midas touch.
                    But he touched it too much!
                    Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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