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  • OMG! Mubarak wins in election shocker!

    Itw as close man, only 88% of the vote....people were sweating in Cairo over this one.



    Mubarak declared winner of Egypt election

    Friday, September 9, 2005; Posted: 2:34 p.m. EDT (18:34 GMT)

    CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- President Hosni Mubarak was officially declared the victor of Egypt's first contested presidential elections on Friday -- but the vote was marred by a lower than expected turnout of 23 percent.

    The low participation reflected widespread skepticism among Egyptians over the government's claims that the election opens the door to greater democratic reform -- and apathy over a vote that Mubarak was certain to win.

    Before Wednesday's election, officials in Mubarak's ruling party said they hoped at least 30 percent of the 32 million registered voters would cast ballots.

    The 77-year-old Mubarak, who has ruled Egypt for 24 years, had won a new six-year term with 88.571 percent of the vote, the head of the elections commission, Mahmoud Marie, told reporters, announcing the final results.

    Second place went to Ayman Nour of the opposition Al-Ghad party, with 7.3 percent of the vote.

    The other main opposition candidate, Noaman Gomaa of the Wafd Party, received 2.8 percent.

    The election was the first ever in which Mubarak faced a competitor after years of being re-elected in "yes-no" referendums ini which he was the sole candidate.

    His government has touted the change as a major democratic reform, and as a candidate Mubarak promised further change. But opponents were skeptical, with most major parties boycotting the election.

    Widespread violations were reported by voters, opposition groups and independent monitors during the balloting -- particularly strong pressure from officials and other on voters to back Mubarak. But the election saw none of the violence or overt vote rigging that has plagued past parliamentary elections.

    Marie, who is the top judge on Egypt's highest court, said the vote was clean and that allegations of violations came out of "over-enthusiasm in a nascent experiment that will be the cornerstone in the construction of democracy."

    On Thursday, Nour demanded the election be repeated because of the allegations, but the commission -- which reform-minded judges have accused of being dominated by the government -- rejected the request.

    Third-place finisher Gomaa said Friday his party would put together a list of the election violations it witnessed and present them to the commission. But, speaking to Al-Jazeera television, he acknowledged that the violations were not enough to affect Mubarak's victory.

    His party's newspaper, Al-Wafd, highlighted alleged irregularities that marred the vote but still hailed the vote as the birth of democracy in Egypt.

    "The people have woken up and they are not going to go back to sleep," a lead editorial in the paper said.

    Pro-government newspapers on Friday trumpeted Mubarak's victory as opening a new era of reform.

    "History will dedicate pages to Mubarak," gushed Al-Ahram's editor, Osama Saraya, in a frontpage column.

    In Lebanon, the editor of the left-wing newspaper As-Safir said the polls were "more than a referendum, but less than an election."

    "There is no way to deny the importance of the event," said As-Safir editor-in-chief Joseph Samaha. But he said the election was marred by "the bias of the state apparatus, the unfairness of the election commission, rigging and mistakes."

    Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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  • #2
    We don't need to bring democracy to the middle east - it's already there.
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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    • #3
      it looks like they put more effort into making this look like an actual election...

      I think they realized the last one (where Mubarak won like 96% or whatever) may not have been very legit.

      fake elections
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        *stupid comment removed*
        "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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        • #5
          While it is true that his opponents never had a chance, we must look at the bright side. The paper reported on many people talking out about possible irregularities.
          Think about that. In the old days, they would have been jailed. Opponents to the government would have been jailed. So I still think this was a step in the right direction. The people are getting a chance to voice their opinions with less fear.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #6
            Yeah, give it time, same for Saudi Arabia and Iran.

            The case of Iraq is, of course, a completely different one. Give it time and enter hell on earth.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rah
              ... we must look at the bright side. The paper reported on many people talking out about possible irregularities.
              Think about that...
              couldn't help it
              "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
              "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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              • #8
                The emphasis being on many people talking, not on possible irregularities.

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                • #9
                  Yeah, on the bright side, things are improving. Hell, in 300 years, maybe they'll stop publically stoning women to death!
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10


                    How long did it take in Europe until people stopped acting like Barbs? Thinking of England, the process is still not entirely through.

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                    • #11
                      The horde descends on Berlin in less than a week....
                      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                      • #12
                        a tiny step forward.
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • #13
                          A friend of mine explained to me the problem of democratic reforms in North Africa.

                          The main problem is that the established governments are mostly unreleigious, and a too quick democratization could lead to the rise of Islamists. The military would oppose the rise to prominence of these Islamist civilians, and the democratization process would get back to zer (after some blood had been spilled).

                          That's what happened in Algeria in 1992. For the first time, the elections were free and fair. The Islamists won a clear victory, and they were barred from rising to power. This is actually why the Algerian Islamists completely stopped believing in peaceful rpocess, and this is why the Algerian civil war was triggered.

                          In Morocco, timid democratic experiments also show the potential for fundamentalism to win. I imagine that Egypt has exactly the same problems.
                          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sava
                            Yeah, on the bright side, things are improving. Hell, in 300 years, maybe they'll stop publically stoning women to death!
                            I am not aware that the Egyptians do so.
                            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Spiffor
                              A friend of mine explained to me the problem of democratic reforms in North Africa.

                              The main problem is that the established governments are mostly unreleigious, and a too quick democratization could lead to the rise of Islamists. The military would oppose the rise to prominence of these Islamist civilians, and the democratization process would get back to zer (after some blood had been spilled).

                              That's what happened in Algeria in 1992. For the first time, the elections were free and fair. The Islamists won a clear victory, and they were barred from rising to power. This is actually why the Algerian Islamists completely stopped believing in peaceful rpocess, and this is why the Algerian civil war was triggered.

                              In Morocco, timid democratic experiments also show the potential for fundamentalism to win. I imagine that Egypt has exactly the same problems.
                              Democracy is good unless bad people get elected

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