I think Martin's figured out how to make the Americans sit up and take notice

[lord of the mark]

why should we care. Canadian commodities will be sold at market prices. Theyre fungible commodities after all.


And of course, if we ever needed to the put the squeeze on China, its a helluva lot easier to cut off their essential commodities on the west coast of North America than in say, southeast Asia. Or Central Asia. Not that we'd ever do anything like that, of course

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Wezil


Are you serious?

Anyone that feels the Chinese system violates human rights for starters. A communist regime with ideals in contrast to us in the west gains control over our (western) oil, steel, zinc, etc.....(crucial military components) and is not obligated to allow free market access to the resources.

any capitalist company can choose to use resources in a suboptimal manner, for ex selling them at submarket prices to a subsidiary. They do so at their own expense. If China chooses to use their purchased resources suboptimally, that will cost them. And if they do something nasty, like an unprovoked war on Taiwan, you can freeze their assets.

[mrmitchell]

Canada selling out to the worse of two evils

Why is PetroKAZAKHSTAN based in Canada, anyway?

The only good news is, if you were selling natural resources actually in Canada to the Chinese, you could send in the Mounties and seize them...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Wezil


Are you serious?

Anyone that feels the Chinese system violates human rights for starters. A communist regime with ideals in contrast to us in the west gains control over our (western) oil, steel, zinc, etc.....(crucial military components) and is not obligated to allow free market access to the resources.

As the original post implies - I would suspect the US would care a great deal even if we can't see the difficulty ourselves.

Btw, isn't it strange we got out of the national oil and gas business ourselves with the sale of Petrocan but have no problem with a foreign government doing it.

a) I had no problem with having a national oil company

b) I dislike the Chinese government every bit as much as you do. I simply think that if we're willing to trade with them then choking on them buying oil companies is a bit silly. Hopefully they'll run the companies less efficiently than they were being run, which means they'll lose money on the deal (assuming they paid a fair price for the company, which they certainly appear to have)

c) The more assets they've bought and paid for in this country, the more assets of theirs that we have hostage.

d) Oil is a fungible commodity. Oil is a fungible commodity. Oil is a fungible commodity.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


any capitalist company can choose to use resources in a suboptimal manner, for ex selling them at submarket prices to a subsidiary. They do so at their own expense. If China chooses to use their purchased resources suboptimally, that will cost them. And if they do something nasty, like an unprovoked war on Taiwan, you can freeze their assets.

EXACTLY

[Kuciwalker]

It's not so great if China buys such assets in a country that wouldn't seize them in event of war (since that's the only case it actually matters, as KH points out several times ), but in Canada? Who cares?

[KrazyHorse]

This accomplishes two goals: gets us more money, and ****s with the heads of the Americans at a time that we were wishing for some more "leverage"...

[KrazyHorse]

Why is your avatar a waffle with a quarter on top of it?

[Kuciwalker]

That's syrup.

[Kuciwalker]

[KrazyHorse]

Why are only 3.5 of those squares filled with syrup?

[Winston]

Re: I think Martin's figured out how to make the Americans sit up and take notice

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[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Why are only 3.5 of those squares filled with syrup?

Ask whoever took the picture.

[KrazyHorse]

You suck.

[Kuciwalker]

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