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Apparently, Yahoo helped Chinese police track e-mails down to a PC and this led to the arrest of a journalist.
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Re: Yahoo gets in the Secret Police Business
Originally posted by pchang
Apparently, Yahoo helped Chinese police track e-mails down to a PC and this led to the arrest of a journalist.
Boo! I don't Yahoo.
He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
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Yahoo hates freedom and democracy. These criminals!
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what was the journalist doing? TRADING CHILD PORN?To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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No. The journalist apparently leaked the incredible state secret that the government had instructed its news outlets to not commemorate the anniversary of the massacre at Tian an Mien Square.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
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Saw this on /. earlier. I think there are much better reasons not to use Yahoo, such as the fact that IT SUCKS.Comment
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Yahoo isn't alone. It is part of the cost of doing business in China. Every company that does business in China has essentially agreed to this trade off. Yahoo is just the first company whose cooperation was used to arrest and convict anybody.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
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I didn't like that guy in front of the tank anyways
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Resident Filipina Lady Boy Expert.Comment
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So, what's the hubba hubba here?
Even RIAA asked ISPs in the US to turn over information to help with investigations. The FBI and CIA no doubt have done the same.
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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Yes, but these arrests get no due process. The journalist can be held indefinitely, and extra charged are certain to be added to either villify him or because they know they can't convince the international community that he was 'spying' and need to save face. That's the hubba hubba here.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"Comment
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These kinds of arrests are getting more common as dissent is increasing in the mainland. There is now an increasingly tighter control of state media than a year ago.Originally posted by pchang
No. The journalist apparently leaked the incredible state secret that the government had instructed its news outlets to not commemorate the anniversary of the massacre at Tian an Mien Square.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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It appears this guy got 10 years for "diverging state secrets."Originally posted by DaShi
Yes, but these arrests get no due process.
A lot of people have made similar allegations before, but I have never heard anything that was substantiated. Just a couple of years ago a female US citizen of Chinese origin was arrested for spying. At that time a lot of noises were made. Though after she was released after a year or so in jail nothing came out of it again - even after said person returned to the US.Originally posted by DaShi
The journalist can be held indefinitely, and extra charged are certain to be added to either villify him or because they know they can't convince the international community that he was 'spying' and need to save face. That's the hubba hubba here.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
A lot of people have made similar allegations before, but I have never heard anything that was substantiated. Just a couple of years ago a female US citizen of Chinese origin was arrested for spying. At that time a lot of noises were made. Though after she was released after a year or so in jail nothing came out of it again - even after said person returned to the US.
It appears this guy got 10 years for "diverging state secrets."“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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what exactly is a diverging state secret? "The government told us not to commemorate the anniversary of Tian an Mien Square". The previous statement is worth 10 years in jail?“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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Yes, and look at the news that made. Unlike China, this issue is debatable in the American legal system.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
So, what's the hubba hubba here?
Even RIAA asked ISPs in the US to turn over information to help with investigations. The FBI and CIA no doubt have done the same.
Pull out your dictionary and tell us which logical flaws you are using here.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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