When we talk about celeron

[reds4ever]

Beat me to it Ninot!

[Asher]

Originally posted by lightblue
The Celeron laptops confuse me a bit, 1.5GhZ laptop same price as a P4 3.2GhZ. I guess it;s just power use but I found it odd.

Simply put, clockrate is but one factor in processor speed. The other one is an aggregate figure called IPC, or instructions per clock.

Performance = MHz * IPC

The Pentium 4/Celeron has much less IPC than Athlon 64s and Pentium M/Celeron M/Centrino chips.

While a 3.2GHz Pentium 4 seems faster than a 2GHz Athlon 64 3200+, the 2GHz Athlon will spank it in performance in most cases.

Similarly, a 2GHz Pentium M pretty much spanks a 3.2GHz Pentium 4 as well.

Celerons differ from Pentiums in that they're feature-reduced, which hurts performance -- they'll have less cache, less memory bandwidth, or both...which reduces IPC and hence performance.

[Asher]

And Centrino/Pentium M/Celeron M chips use much, much less power than Pentium 4s and regular Celerons do.

The Pentium 4 architecture is being retired, and new chips are being derived from the Pentium M/Centrino -- on desktop and laptops.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Ninot
Maybe im confused (i hope im not, i studied this kinda thing for years) but I think many of you are using the word "Celeron" in the place of "Centrino"

Centrino

Celeron

I have owned a couple of Celerons in my time, and they made me want to murder something. I always advise against them.

Centrinos are awesome tho.

Centrino refers to the entire chipset, which includes:
Pentium M
Intel PRO Wireless
...among other things.

Centrinos are NOT processors; that's what the Pentium M/Celeron Ms are.

[Asher]

Centrino is the name for the Intel platform for wireless laptops.

They've recently announced a new brand, "Viiv", for home theatre desktops: http://www.intel.com/personal/desktop/viiv/

Intel® Viiv™ Technology Arrives Early 2006

Get ready for a new kind of consumer entertainment PC that will change the way you enjoy entertainment at home. Intel's new platform for digital entertainment—Intel® Viiv™ technology—will launch in early 2006 with the multitasking power of a dual-core processor-based PC and sleek new designs that fit your lifestyle.

An Intel Viiv technology-based PC:
* Features remote control operation from the comfort of your couch, and instant on/off functionality like a TV (after initial boot)
* Has cutting-edge technology, including a dual-core processor and advanced graphics and sound capability for an amazing audio/visual experience
* Offers content on demand with easy Internet access to movies, music, pictures and games
* Has the ability to record, pause, and rewind live TV programs (with optional TV tuner card)
* Includes special software that makes it easier to set-up a home network and connect to other wireless devices
* Comes in different shapes and sizes to fit any style home, including small consumer electronics-type designs that look like DVD players to more traditional desktop designs
* Provides state-of-the-art PC performance including support for up to 7.1 channel surround sound for a home theater-quality entertainment experienceΨ

With an Intel Viiv technology-based PC and supporting devices, you can enjoy a growing universe of digital media content—both directly at the PC and in other rooms throughout your home. Plus, the power of Intel dual-core processors means that multiple family members can use the same PC to enjoy content in different rooms at the same time. For example, one family member can download a movie on the Intel Viiv technology-based PC in the family room, while another enjoys music being streamed from the same PC to the living room stereo.

[lightblue]

Thanks guys, I think i kind of understand it now Also seen a few Athlon laptop chipsets, they any good?

[Q Classic]

No.

Unfortunately, the current breed of Athlon chipsets for laptops lag far behind those of Intel's.

[Ecthy]

I won't get a new machine for at least another 2 years, so bollocks to all of this!

[Urban Ranger]

Athlons are power gobblers, just like P4s. However there is a line of Sempron processors that use only 25W according to AMD.

[Ecthy]

Bollocks I say!