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  • #46
    Originally posted by lightblue
    Well part of it is no doubt propaganda

    Oh come on, Castro is a politician. Part of anything a politician does is about propaganda. That should be somewhat of a controlled/background variable by now.
    "Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly and ignorant superstition."
    -- Isaac Asimov

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    • #47
      That still seems odd to me, i mean communism used to be the big threat, but surely Cuba's system must be seen as some anachronistic left over by now? If anything, the unwillingness to trade or deal with the regime strengthens it more in the eyes of most of the 3rd world.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by lightblue
        That still seems odd to me, i mean communism used to be the big threat, but surely Cuba's system must be seen as some anachronistic left over by now? If anything, the unwillingness to trade or deal with the regime strengthens it more in the eyes of most of the 3rd world.
        Bingo. Give this guy a degree, a diploma-something!

        The fact is yeah, the only thing allowing a lot of the socialist system in place is in fact our trade barrier, ironically enough. You would think the US would have learned its lesson after china--tough guy rambo policies that alienate the country only perpetuate the isolationism, mutual hatred and accompanying nationalism/authoritarianism--allowing trade however opens the country up to new goods and ideas.

        Americans however are not really the fastest learners, nor the most educated on matters of history.
        "Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly and ignorant superstition."
        -- Isaac Asimov

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        • #49
          I still think it's the Cuban exiles in Florida that make the decisions wrt this, they're the kind of swing voters most presidential candidates need to get in their camp.

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          • #50
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            • #51
              I remember to have seen lightblue here on occasions.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                I remember to have seen lightblue here on occasions.
                /me points above lightblue
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #53
                  Hah, hundred-nil!

                  Aside from that, March 2004 would be not sufficiently "new" to dance, anyway.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                    Hah, hundred-nil!

                    Aside from that, March 2004 would be not sufficiently "new" to dance, anyway.
                    bah, he's a sleeper DL

                    that's when someone creates a DL and doesn't use him for months (sometimes YEARS) just to pop in some time in the future on the OTF!
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #55
                      Sleeper DL?

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                      • #56
                        I bet he#s from Cuba
                        Blah

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                          Sleeper DL?

                          Yeah as I explained beforehand world of warcraft is down. So I'm now actually having to concern myself with reality--or well internet forums which are closer to reality for me.
                          "Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly and ignorant superstition."
                          -- Isaac Asimov

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                          • #58
                            Actually, Cuba's threat to the U.S. has been given a new lease on life thanks to: Chavez, the growth of the FARC-EP in Columbia, the Bolvian crises, the ouster of the Equadoran president, etc. The left is on the offensive in Latin America, and Cuba stands there, defiant to the U.S., showing another path to neo-imperialism/globalization.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #59
                              The US has slept with enemies before...

                              Cuba would actually be an improvement from the former Iraqi regime and the Chinese, IMO
                              meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                              • #60
                                I think only the most rabid anti-communist would dsiagree that as far as enemies go, Cuba is among the most beneign. The U.S., however, considers Latin America its special preserve. It looks very dimly on even the smallest threats to its control.

                                This is actually a great time for the left to move forward, with the U.S. bogged down in the Middle East and now hurt bad in the Delta. We're in no shape to forcing our will in the region. Even so, we're certainly not going to take the pressure of Cuba and make it any easy for other states to escape our orbit.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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