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  • #31
    "way of life" slipping away
    urgh.NSFW

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    • #32
      Just curious - is this about globalization only in the economic sense? What about communications (internet) and cultural aspects. Critics would probably mention "cultural imperialism" and "Americanization" here. But that's all debatable as well.....
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      • #33
        A critic did mention it

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        • #34
          Thank you Aggie, Berz, and Imran, though I've already written my paper off of the other stuff. I also went back and looked at the "french workers want to be lazy" thread.

          EDIT: Oh, and Aggie making sense
          Last edited by Kuciwalker; September 6, 2005, 07:01.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Berzerker
            A critic did mention it
            Yeah, I read your post, I meant if these aspects play a role in Kuci's school thing.
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            • #36
              and what economists call free riding (like when you have to breathe polluted air so that GM can make more money – you absorb the cost of a transaction to which you did not consent).
              Isnt free riding more like not paying for a service that benefits you nonetheless? Like military/police protection? I seem to remember that example from our debates. What you described sounds more like facism if taken to an extreme (see my sig) Communist countries pollute too, is that a communist failure?

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              • #37
                Yes, Berz, free riding is not paying for a benefit. Agathon there is describing a negative externality, which you can say is like passing the buck, or something.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  Yes, Berz, free riding is not paying for a benefit. Agathon there is describing a negative externality, which you can say is like passing the buck, or something.
                  Free riding and negative externalities are basically two sides of the same coin, in both cases benefits and costs mismatch in a way that results in an inefficient economic arraignement. You can have these problems in any kind of economic system...
                  Stop Quoting Ben

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Berzerker
                    Communist countries pollute too, is that a communist failure?
                    Absolutely.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #40
                      Oh, let us know how your paper goes.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #41
                        F
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #42
                          The problem isn't with globalization, but lawless, totally unregulated globalization (something stemming from market fundamentalism). As noble prize winning economist, and critic of globalization Joseph Stiglitz put it: Globalization is neither good or evil, it is a technology that can be used for good or evil.

                          Just like atomic power, or chemistry, or the internet, economic systems are just a technology. And a technology can be used or misused. In any event some good dirt on globalization can be found in Stiglitz Globalization and its Discontents. Note that globalization does do some good, it has I believe overall raised living standards substantially in the third world (just look at how South Korea has something like 28 times as much wealth as North Korea, and about four times as much wealth as china, probably because those countries are more economically isolated).
                          "Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly and ignorant superstition."
                          -- Isaac Asimov

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                          • #43
                            Stiglitz is probably the best (and most intelligent) critic of globalization, I serously recommend him for anyone who wants to read both sides of the argument.
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                            • #44
                              What's happening to this place? No response to my racism troll? Not even a "0/10"?
                              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Last Conformist
                                What's happening to this place? No response to my racism troll? Not even a "0/10"?
                                too obvious!
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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