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  • #16
    Originally posted by ravagon


    Disquieting if true but I wholeheartily agree with this part ...

    The way police officers and officers of the court and members of the British Government acted speedily on the prickings of their conscience in the cases of the Guildford Four and the Birmingham Six, no doubt.
    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Winston


      That's funny, since Syria was on the UNSC in 2002-03, more than a decade after Libya was marked as being behind the bombing.
      What doe rotating seats for non-permament members have to do with it?
      If you don't like reality, change it! me
      "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
      "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
      "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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      • #18
        Am I really the one having to answer to that?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Winston
          Am I really the one having to answer to that?
          Its you that made the point.

          By it did you mean that if Syria had been in the Council in 1990, not sufficient time would have passed for it to be back in the council in 2002?

          Or did you mean something else?
          If you don't like reality, change it! me
          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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          • #20
            What I meant should be evident, assuming you're able to read properly. I pointed to where chegitz guevara cooked up a little 'alternative history' to further his OP claims.

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            • #21
              **** you, Winston. I made a mistake. I didn't make **** up.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #22
                Discuss the topic, not the posters...

                Regardless of the whistleblower's credibility we should investigate his claim...
                meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                  **** [...] **** [...]
                  Well if you'll notice, I held off on that particular point until further inquired into by GePap. Then I decided to call it as I see it.

                  I suppose that doesn't make it any better from your POV. But try posting truthfully, and all such worries should magically disappear.

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                  • #24
                    Again, **** you! I made a mistake, I didn't lie.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      Again, **** you! I made a mistake, I didn't lie.
                      tsk tsk tsk

                      communist.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                        Again, **** you! I made a mistake, I didn't lie.
                        Strictly speaking, you did as what you said was not the truth. Whether or not you intentionally lied is another thing.

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                        • #27
                          He was faking evidence to show how the CIA faked evidence. Hilarious. Also, one of the most appropriate thread titles ever seen.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Winston
                            He was faking evidence to show how the CIA faked evidence. Hilarious. Also, one of the most appropriate thread titles ever seen.

                            His mistake aside, he is correct- the C.I.A. has lied in the past to Congress:


                            And the CIA director was required by law to brief the Congress. This CIA director Bill Colby - the same one that dumped our people in Vietnam - he gave 36 briefings of the Congress, the oversight committees, about what we were doing in Angola. And he lied. At 36 formal briefings. And such lies are perjury, and it's a felony to lie to the Congress.



                            Syria had, before Lockerbie, attempted to blow up airliners- Nezar Hindawi being the most infamous case:

                            The UK government has broken off diplomatic relations with Syria following revelations of official complicity in Nezar Hindawi's plot to blow up an El Al airliner.
                            Foreign Secretary Sir Geoffrey Howe said in a statement there was "conclusive evidence" of Syrian official involvement with Mr Hindawi.

                            It is understood the bomb Mr Hindawi planned to use was constructed at the Syrian Embassy in London and that Mr Hindawi held a Syrian passport normally reserved for government officials.

                            The Syrian ambassador, Dr Loutof Haydar, said the decision to expel him was "nonsense".

                            The decision came just hours after Mr Hindawi was sentenced to 45 years in jail for plotting to blow up the Israeli airliner flight to Tel Aviv.

                            Mr Hindawi attempted to blow up the flight by planting a timer bomb inside his girlfriend's hand luggage. Ann Murphy had been under the impression that he would follow her on a later flight.

                            The explosives were only discovered when a security official searched the bag thinking it was too heavy. The 3lb of plastic explosives and a detonator concealed in a pocket calculator had made it through two X-ray machines undetected.
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                            It had far-reaching consequences:

                            Following their expulsion the Syrian authorities admitted Mr Hindawi was carrying a Syrian passport in a false name and that two separate visa applications had official support.

                            It was also admitted that he met the ambassador immediately after the bomb's discovery and he then stayed in accommodation belonging to a member of the Syrian Embassy.

                            Syria responded to their expulsion by cutting all links with Britain, including closing airspace and sea ports to British planes and ships.

                            The expulsion of the Syrian Embassy official was the first time an ambassador had ever been removed for being involved in criminal activities.

                            Syria was Iran's 'friend' in the topsy-turvy world of Middle East and Near East politics- a secular dictatorship led by an Alaouite militarist, a 'socialist' ally of the Soviet Union, allied with a theocratic Shi'ite republic which had purged Communist elements in Iran.

                            Both supported Hezbollah in Lebanon- Iran's oil revenues could fund Syria's campaigns in Lebanon and its terrorist activities.


                            Two years later, the U.S.S. Vincennes shoots down an Iranian airliner, and then hoopla! a short while later, for no reason, the Libyans bring down a jet over Lockerbie.
                            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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