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Originally posted by DanS
By my count that's almost 4 days, not 5 days. Just think of the logistics involved.
By my count that's almost 4 days, not 5 days. Just think of the logistics involved.
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Just think of all the people in the city without food or water. They could have done it far faster. Hell, the head of FEMA had no clue that people were in the Convention Center until YESTERDAY! These people were clueless, Dan! And they totally ****ed up.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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I thought we were talking about the National Guard/military, not FEMA?
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by Japher
That storm began on Clinton's watch!
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don't play dumbOriginally posted by DanS
I thought we were talking about the National Guard/military, not FEMA?
we're talking about ALL RECOVERY EFFORTS
you can't weasel your way out of things by just saying, "oh I was just talking about NG/military"
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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We are talking about the feds and the state (the ones capable of providing relief). They should have been there before this. The FEMA's chairman shows the disconnect. It almost makes you ask how come no one cares about New Orleans?Originally posted by DanS
I thought we were talking about the National Guard/military, not FEMA?
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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For all we knew on Monday, New Orleans was fine. That is, until the levee broke. I'm not suggesting that we give our politicians a pass, but be more realistic about what can be organized and in what timeframe.
Are we going to start blaming our politicians for sending strong category 4 storms into major cities now?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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For all we knew on Monday, New Orleans was fine. That is, until the levee broke. I'm not suggesting that we give our politicians a pass, but be more realistic about what can be organized and in what timeframe.
Please, we were helping people from the tsunami in 4 days of the disaster. You are telling me that it takes just as long to help out one of our OWN cities as it does to go halfway around the world to help?
If we were prepared, and we should have been, we could have had national guard and FEMA in there on Wednesday.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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As far as I've seen it really is just ordinary people who decide to go do something. For better and for worse the federal goverment has this massive beauracy on it's back that ordinary people don't give a crap about. They just go and do it. There have been many people from Arkansas that have made numerous trips down already, bringing in water and other essential items. They are using their own money and donations to do it. IT's sad that is how it has to beOriginally posted by Japher
Apparently ppl like Wanda Vevia Bailey are running things
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul TighComment
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They knew about the possibility of the city being destroyed on Saturday. Even if it was a 1% chance of a MAJOR US CITY BEING DESTROYED they should have been making preperations and get things ready to move in as soon as the storm had passed. A ship carrying many food, water and supplis left port yesterday. It's expected to reach New Orleans on the 8th. What, are they going to feed corpses?!Originally posted by DanS
How much earlier? The levee was known to have broken on Tuesday. Before that, New Orleans was thought to have been spared the worst of the storm. I know that time is of the essence, but the whole Gulf Coast was sucker punched.
"I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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No, it took five days to get the NG to the center of teh city. You know, that part you have to travel through miles of devastated cityscape to reach.Even if it was a total surprise (it wasn't), it takes FIVE days to get the National Guard into the city? I mean, come on!
Incidently, Army helicopters were on hand as teh Super Dome the day off the hurricane..."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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What, a ship like, GASP, the USS Baatan?They knew about the possibility of the city being destroyed on Saturday. Even if it was a 1% chance of a MAJOR US CITY BEING DESTROYED they should have been making preperations and get things ready to move in as soon as the storm had passed. A ship carrying many food, water and supplis left port yesterday. It's expected to reach New Orleans on the 8th. What, are they going to feed corpses?!
Incidently, Tampa, Pensacola, Panama City, Jackson, Mongomery, Tallahase and many others were well within 1% of being destroyes, some more like 50-50. I figure with 100 NG and Active divisions we could have been 10% prepared to protect them all.
How they ground troops would have stopped wind and rain and storm surges I am not sure. How having them drown in the same disaster helps I don't know. But apparently you do."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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YeahOriginally posted by Sprayber
As far as I've seen it really is just ordinary people who decide to go do something. For better and for worse the federal goverment has this massive beauracy on it's back that ordinary people don't give a crap about. They just go and do it. There have been many people from Arkansas that have made numerous trips down already, bringing in water and other essential items. They are using their own money and donations to do it. IT's sad that is how it has to be
. But thank God that private individuals were willing to try to help when the federal and state governments were powerless and helpless. It's a very sad site when you saw pictures of people yelling for someone, anyone to help them, to give them food or water and they didn't get relief from outside until now .
I mean Hell, the mayor had to lash out, the Governor issued a 'desperate SOS'. It shouldn't have had to come to that!“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Bush should have beamed in minutes after the event and handed the person a burger, who had only gone without food for one day but is somehow a Somolia level refugee.Yeah . But thank God that private individuals were willing to try to help when the federal and state governments were powerless and helpless. It's a very sad site when you saw pictures of people yelling for someone, anyone to help them, to give them food or water and they didn't get relief from outside until now .
I mean Hell, the mayor had to lash out, the Governor issued a 'desperate SOS'. It shouldn't have had to come to that!"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Patroklos, what did we say about impossible expectations? No wonder you're disappointed about Bush having failed to beam into NOLA--we don't have transporter technology yet.B♭3Comment
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