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He's avoiding the question because he doesn't have an answer...
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Summary of Bush's speech yesterday :
"Aw, it's tough, but you guys'll get through it"
Seemed quite 'Reaganesque' to me in the terms of this discussion...Comment
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Dis fathers a child.
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Kuci, you freaking ruleOriginally posted by Kuciwalker
Az has it right.
The REAL debate between commies and cappies, not the sissy OMFG UR VIOLATING MY RIGHTS debate, is which system more efficiently organizes and directs capital and labor.
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
The REAL debate between commies and cappies, not the sissy OMFG UR VIOLATING MY RIGHTS debate, is which system more efficiently organizes and directs capital and labor.
Yeah, spot on. The OMFG UR VIOLATING MY RIGHTS has been a serious distraction. However, without a conscious and organised working class, communism is not an option, which means that Marxists must look for other ways to promote their values of science, reason, industry, progress and liberty.Comment
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That's a part of efficient organization.
Ultimately of course it's about net utility, but in general that directly follows from a well-organized economy.
Have you accepted utilitarianism as your personal jesus?
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Conservatism destroys a major city out of greed and its ideolgoy, and all they have to retort with is: Mao! Stalin!
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I posted a little about this in the looting thread, but this seems somewhat more appropo to this discussion.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Conservatism destroys a major city out of greed and its ideolgoy, and all they have to retort with is: Mao! Stalin!
Capitalism is all about the free market ideally. In reality it's tough love for the working classes and corporate welfare to protect the stockholders.
In New Orleans we have looters and chaos. There is almost no government interference. This is the new economy. Those who are strong enough to sieze goods and to provide services are doing so. In a primitive market like this, there aren't going to be many if any services, but there are goods to be seized and distributed and for a cost by gangs. Gangs in this case are the capitalists.
They are the new entrepeneurs. The gangs will have all of the capital and will control the market. The government should not interfere with new free market dynamics that are emerging in New Orleans.
Now I am not seriously advocating that we allow gang rule to take over New Orleans, but isn't my scenario the capitalist ideal of a free market?
edit: Fixed some grammar. I hate it when my grammar is awkward
Last edited by MosesPresley; September 1, 2005, 09:22."In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
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Your genitalia has caught something not known to medical journals.In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
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My mailman lives on the left of all the sticks that the bird dropped near the parking lot.Originally posted by Pekka
Your genitalia has caught something not known to medical journals."In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
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im happy to see that Mr. C. Guevera has joined in support of the utilitarian, liberal state, and is calling for greater investment in infrastructure. I look forward to seeing him join me in supporting Hillary Clinton. She will need all the help in Florida she can get.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Sorry Moses, I think that's more than 10..In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
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Re: Re: Crying Wolf?
Absolutely.Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Still, when FEMA is telling you that this kind of disaster is likely, and will be one of the worst natural disasters in US history, you could at least independently verify what the USACE is telling you.Old posters never die.
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Pekka
"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Conservatism destroys a major city out of greed and its ideolgoy, and all they have to retort with is: Mao! Stalin!
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