--"but the fact that it was a planned giant reset button doesn't lessen the fact that it was a giant reset button."
No, but the fact that it's completely different at the end than at the beginning does (reset button is not the same as deus ex). Oh well, it's up to you. You don't have to like it and I won't bother trying to persuade you otherwise.
--"That is, I want devious plotting and scheming, interesting morality discussion, and main characters that aren't necessarily paragons of virtue."
Devious plotting and scheming is pretty much an anime staple, but how believable it is would be another question ^_^ If you liked Death Note, I'm assuming that's not a problem.
For this one, again, I'd have to recommend Berserk, but only if you're willing to read the manga as well. Definitely along the lines of what you're looking for, although with much more violence.
The various Ghost in the Shell series would probably work well for you.
I'd like to add in Twelve Kingdoms. The main story arc of the anime is completed, but there's another story arc that isn't (the novels are still coming out, so the story isn't near done).
GTO probably isn't exactly what you're asking for, but it might be worth checking out to see. The students come up with some pretty heavy-duty plots against their teachers, and Onizuka is very much not a paragon of virtue.
Probably others, which I'll think about, but those are a start.
Wraith
"Her positive way of thinking is as horrifying as ever."
-- Nozomu Itoshiki ("Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei")
No, but the fact that it's completely different at the end than at the beginning does (reset button is not the same as deus ex). Oh well, it's up to you. You don't have to like it and I won't bother trying to persuade you otherwise.
--"That is, I want devious plotting and scheming, interesting morality discussion, and main characters that aren't necessarily paragons of virtue."
Devious plotting and scheming is pretty much an anime staple, but how believable it is would be another question ^_^ If you liked Death Note, I'm assuming that's not a problem.
For this one, again, I'd have to recommend Berserk, but only if you're willing to read the manga as well. Definitely along the lines of what you're looking for, although with much more violence.
The various Ghost in the Shell series would probably work well for you.
I'd like to add in Twelve Kingdoms. The main story arc of the anime is completed, but there's another story arc that isn't (the novels are still coming out, so the story isn't near done).
GTO probably isn't exactly what you're asking for, but it might be worth checking out to see. The students come up with some pretty heavy-duty plots against their teachers, and Onizuka is very much not a paragon of virtue.
Probably others, which I'll think about, but those are a start.
Wraith
"Her positive way of thinking is as horrifying as ever."
-- Nozomu Itoshiki ("Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei")
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