Idea about "click it or ticket" (mandatory seat belt laws)

[Velociryx]

Ahhh, but then we're back to cars, and the ol' "political suicide" argument, which of course is an admission that it is NOT about saving lives at all, else THAT would not even be a thought or concern.

-=Vel=-

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ming
Then what about pollution from cars...

I have a bicycle.

[Sava]

bikes pollute the roads

[chequita guevara]

Screw you! I have as much right to the roads as you pollution spewing bastards do.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Screw you! I have as much right to the roads as you pollution spewing bastards do.

now now che calm down . .. we all know that Sava stays at home contemplating his navel and spewing the ocassional bit of pot. and if he drives its a hydrid

[Velociryx]

To all the "personal freedom" dorks, you do not have a "right" to use the roads. You are awarded a priveledge to use them, contingent on driving as safely as possible, and that priveledge can be revoked.

-chegitz guevara



-=Vel=-

[Ming]

Sava... enough with the personal crap... discuss stuff in a civil manner or don't bother to post. You are about one post away from a restriction.

And to the rest... just ignore him. No need risking yourself in a flame war... because I'll just nail you as well

[Sava]

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[Sava]

Originally posted by Ming
Sava... enough with the personal crap...

what personal crap?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Ahhh, but then we're back to cars, and the ol' "political suicide" argument, which of course is an admission that it is NOT about saving lives at all, else THAT would not even be a thought or concern.

-=Vel=-

Hmm if you follow that reasoning we wouldn't do any anti-pillution control because we don't do more stringent controls on motior vehicles.

The reality is that-- politicians have to deal with reality. Some measures that might be more beneficial for our health or the environment don't happen because there is no way the political support is there.

So no matter what the goal-- the goal can be real and legitimate but political considerations always weigh in. There are not enough people supporting limitations on motor vehicles-- So what will happen is their use will be slowly curtailed by normal market forces such as the ones driving the price of oil up

[Ming]

Originally posted by Sava


what personal crap?

then you pollute the roads

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sava
that's okay, I'll just lean on my horn and yell SIDEWALK as I pass you by

It's against the law for cyclists to use the sidewalks.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Velociryx
To all the "personal freedom" dorks, you do not have a "right" to use the roads. You are awarded a priveledge to use them, contingent on driving as safely as possible, and that priveledge can be revoked.

AMEN!

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Velociryx
To all the "personal freedom" dorks, you do not have a "right" to use the roads. You are awarded a priveledge to use them, contingent on driving as safely as possible, and that priveledge can be revoked.

-chegitz guevara



-=Vel=-

Exactly.

[Sava]

Ming: fixed