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  • #31


    now that's what i call a kiss of death
    "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

    "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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    • #32
      We went from the most sympathized nation in the world immediately after 9/11 to the most hated right now.
      It's only you think you were so sympathized.
      Remember latin america during cold war, remember Vietnam, Korea?

      I don't think such an agressive country can ever be "symphatized".

      But for the other part of the point - I agree with the most except that attacking them was right.

      You did exactly what OBL wanted you to do and now it's only a beginning not an end.
      Radicalism is growing not only in the lands you invaded but in almost every other place where muslims are.


      You could invade Mekkah now and break all hell loose..
      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DanS
        The US has to show strength to these folks by finishing what we start.
        We did finish what we started in '91. "The Job" as you put it, was to drive Iraq out of Kuwait. Nothing else. It's only reactionaries like you who get off on Americans committing murder abroad who invented the idea tha the U.S. had some job beyond what it set out to do.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by binTravkin


          It's only you think you were so sympathized.
          Remember latin america during cold war, remember Vietnam, Korea?
          Well, there have been surveys taken during that time and the feelings toward the USA were overwhelmingly supportive.

          The younger generation in Iran is actually very pro USA, and even in Vietnam there are generally good feelings toward Americans. We are actually the #1 trading partner with Vietnam, and they even want us to build a military base there. Between us and China as their main ally, they lean towards us. Very strange. Everyone there was very happy when Clinton lifted the economic sanctions, and life there has improved dramatically since then. Though it still has a long way to go.

          But the most telling sign is that the feelings towards the USA among our closest allies -- UK and Germany, to name 2, have gone downhill dramatically.
          Last edited by Ted Striker; August 24, 2005, 03:16.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #35
            Well, there have been surveys taken during that time and the feelings toward the USA were overwhelmingly supportive.
            Dunno about surveys, but it's only logical that a power which enforces it's policies on neighbours like Latin America is not liked by people.

            During Clinton's govenrment, yes, relations were boosted, but before that they were not too much better as they're now and talking about feelings among your closest allies - I think that you can count most of the Europe in this cathegory and what's the most important, even if politicians are keeping the diplomatic line (power = respect), the people do not think so mildly.

            In most European countries governments who supported Iraq war are going to have quite a loss of votes in next elections, unless they have reversed their decisions or made something else important.
            -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
            -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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