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    Was there a thread on this I missed out?

    Officer: 9/11 Panel Told Cells Identified

    By KIMBERLY HEFLING
    The Associated Press
    Thursday, August 18, 2005; 9:10 AM

    WASHINGTON -- The Sept. 11 commission failed to pursue information that a secret military unit had identified two cells involved in the 2001 terrorist strikes more than a year before the attacks, an Army intelligence officer contends.

    Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer said that in January 2004, the commission declined to take up his offer of assistance.

    "I just walked away shocked that they would kind of change their mind, but I figured someone with equal or better knowledge ... probably came and talked to them, so they must've taken care of it," Shaffer told The Associated Press in an interview Wednesday.

    The information Shaffer said he gave during a 2003 meeting in Afghanistan was that the unit _ known as "Able Danger" _ had identified Sept. 11 ringleader Mohamed Atta and three other hijackers as terrorist suspects.

    The commission has denied that Atta's name or the name of any future hijackers were mentioned during the meeting.

    Lt. Col. Chris Conway, a Pentagon spokesman, said Wednesday an investigation into Able Danger was under way.

    [...]

    Shaffer said Able Danger identified Atta and three other Sept. 11 hijackers in 2000. But, he said, military lawyers stopped the unit from sharing the information with the FBI out of concerns about the legality of gathering and sharing information on people in the U.S.

    "The lawyers' view was to leave them alone, they had the same basic rights as a U.S. citizen, a U.S. person and therefore the data was kind of left alone," Shaffer said.

    Shaffer said he and a Navy officer disagreed with that and tried to set up meetings with the FBI, but each time the idea was rejected by lawyers from the Special Operations command.

    "There was a feeling ... if we give this information to the FBI and something goes wrong, we're going to get blamed for whatever goes wrong," Shaffer said.

    The statement by Kean and Hamilton said only Atta was mentioned to the commission staff as being identified by Able Danger. They were told by a Navy officer about Atta 10 days before the commission released its report in July 2004, but the officer did not have documentation to back it up, the statement said.

    The statement also said the Navy officer's dates related to the pre-Sept. 11 whereabouts of Atta did not fit with what they knew.

    Shaffer said Able Danger "wasn't about dates and locations. It was about associations and linkages. That's what the focus was."

    Shaffer said Able Danger identified the terrorists using data mining techniques. His relationship to Able Danger was first reported by The New York Times and Fox News Channel.

    [...]

  • #2
    No, there hasn't been a thread on it. It doesn't surprise me though. There was a total ****-up on our counter-terrorism agencies' parts, and that doesn't even include the active interference of the Bush Administration or the neglect by the Clinton Administration.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #3
      Nope, it's definitely not a kitty in a boot
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #4
        But it's bouncy.
        Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

        It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
        The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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        • #5
          Yeah, I do love his avatar.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #6
            what a serious response..

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