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  • #31
    I just regret I can't crash a helicopter into your house
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by DanS
      Well the article that I quoted didn't even mention the Aussie. I feel unfairly abused.

      The Aussie was probably 5th author or something.
      5th author is usually the PI

      in other words, the person who had the idea and got the funding

      JM
      (1st and 2nd authors generally do most of the work)

      edit: by 5th I mean last author
      Jon Miller-
      I AM.CANADIAN
      GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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      • #33
        OK. Fourth author.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #34
          Actually, he's 7th author out of 8.

          Reports
          Strong, Transparent, Multifunctional, Carbon Nanotube Sheets
          Mei Zhang,1 Shaoli Fang,1 Anvar A. Zakhidov,1 Sergey B. Lee,1 Ali E. Aliev,1 Christopher D. Williams,1 Ken R. Atkinson,2 Ray H. Baughman1*

          Individual carbon nanotubes are like minute bits of string, and many trillions of these invisible strings must be assembled to make useful macroscopic articles. We demonstrated such assembly at rates above 7 meters per minute by cooperatively rotating carbon nanotubes in vertically oriented nanotube arrays (forests) and made 5-centimeter-wide, meter-long transparent sheets. These self-supporting nanotube sheets are initially formed as a highly anisotropic electronically conducting aerogel that can be densified into strong sheets that are as thin as 50 nanometers. The measured gravimetric strength of orthogonally oriented sheet arrays exceeds that of sheets of high-strength steel. These nanotube sheets have been used in laboratory demonstrations for the microwave bonding of plastics and for making transparent, highly elastomeric electrodes; planar sources of polarized broad-band radiation; conducting appliqués; and flexible organic light-emitting diodes.

          1 NanoTech Institute, University of Texas at Dallas, Richardson, TX 75083–0688, USA.
          2 Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization Textile & Fibre Technology, Post Office Box 21, Belmont, Victoria 3216, Australia.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #35
            they should have done that alphabetical then he would have been first
            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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            • #36
              maybe he is a CI?

              (co-investigator, what happens when there are two PIs)

              jM
              Jon Miller-
              I AM.CANADIAN
              GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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              • #37
                I don't think he got the grant. All the money was state-side, AFAIK.

                Seems like a lot of authors. They probably figured this would be an oft-cited article and decided to spread the love. Co-authoring a headline Nature article can't be bad for a career. Either that or the article was unusually long or had more subtopics than normal.
                Last edited by DanS; August 20, 2005, 01:18.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #38
                  *should I yank Dan's chain one more time*
                  Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                  Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Sava
                    I just regret I can't crash a helicopter into your house
                    And to think I liked of most of all the Events, save Tass.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sava
                      I just regret I can't crash a helicopter into your house
                      Why not? Dare to live your dreams, young man.
                      Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by DanS
                        I don't think he got the grant. All the money was state-side, AFAIK.

                        Seems like a lot of authors. They probably figured this would be an oft-cited article and decided to spread the love. Co-authoring a headline Nature article can't be bad for a career. Either that or the article was unusually long or had more subtopics than normal.
                        you know that in nuclear physics or particle physics you can get 100s of authors

                        for an experimental group in condensed matter (which this is) I would expect 3-10 authors

                        on the higher side of some theorists are included

                        Jon Miller
                        Jon Miller-
                        I AM.CANADIAN
                        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                        • #42
                          nanotubes

                          now, one practical question

                          can they be attached to each other or another material ?
                          (eg : steel plates can be welded together...)
                          "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                          • #43
                            I think the only effective way to bind Nano-tube string/Ribbon materials would be BOY SCOUT KNOTS!! No adhesive would be as strong as the material itself and I dont see any way to weld it together chemical so only its own tensile strength could serve as a foundation for a usefull bond.

                            Also for the Paper cut problem I suspect they will simply curle the edge in upon itself to from a little "bumper" that you cant cut yourself on. To prevent cutting the ribbon (remember shear strength is probly low) would need to jacket it in rubber or soft plastic, that will probably cut the mass/stregth ratio in half but that still gives you an incredibly usefull substance.

                            Lets try to think of additional uses beyond the obvious and usefull things like space elevators.

                            I will start the ball rolling.... NANO FLOSS!!
                            Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Verto


                              And to think I liked of most of all the Events, save Tass.


                              if it makes u feel better, it would be a helicopter of love covered in pink hearts!
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by dannubis
                                nanotubes

                                now, one practical question

                                can they be attached to each other or another material ?
                                (eg : steel plates can be welded together...)
                                The articles state that they can layer the ribbons, give it an alcohol bath and they fuse together. In fact, that would be the first thing the manufacturers would do, since there are holes in the ribbon at first.

                                Don't know about the other other materials with which it can be fused.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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