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  • #16
    I just use the quick launch toolbar. I don't have any icons on my desktop. It means no minimizing everything if I want to launch a program.

    For stuff like the calculator, it's just (windows key) up up up enter calc enter, it's faster that way.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kuciwalker
      I just use the quick launch toolbar. I don't have any icons on my desktop. It means no minimizing everything if I want to launch a program.

      For stuff like the calculator, it's just (windows key) up up up enter calc enter, it's faster that way.
      Or it's F12 -> click cursor on calculator widget, calculate.

      And I used the quick launch toolbar too, and I find that all 75% of the apps I accessed via shortcuts and the quick launch, are by default also on the Dock. Adding stuff like World of Warcraft, Keynote, Adium, took all of 10 seconds

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      • #18
        I like the quick launch bar over ObjectDock (which I used to use) because it takes up a lot less space. Despite the comment about size in the OP, it's not hard for me to hit the icons.

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        • #19
          Re: Re: Mac OS X GUI versus Windows XP GUI

          Originally posted by Verto
          Well, my impression has been that graphically, compared to OS X, Windows XP looks extremely shoddy. Ignoring any technogeek arguments about the most inane problems made in some of the posts here, Windows XP looks like ****. Windows Vista seems to be more of the same, with very slight improvement. Now, the Linux-ite, ultra heavy-weight power users here who can change the Earth's axis with their keyboard shortcuts can say what they will about how graphics are just eye candy and are insignificant next to the power of the Force a solid command terminal or whatever, but when a normal, somewhat unbiased computer user looks at an OS X desktop and a Windows XP desktop, I am confident that they will agree the OS X design looks much cleaner, much nicer.
          It's also a resource hog (much moreso than XP), really inconsistent, and less functional in terms of productivity.

          Some of us are less superficial than others, and some of us find Aqua gaudy and tacky. It's improved since 10.0 but it's still overdone. I feel the same way for some of the Windows Vista screenshots, but you can revert to other styles very easily.

          There's already a Stardock program to customize the Vista UI:
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Verto
            Or it's F12 -> click cursor on calculator widget, calculate.
            Since I always have a browser open, it's simply, "g 1819 + sqrt(1/819)" enter.
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            • #21
              The only case where a single-menu bar is theoretically faster is when you're using a single window, maximized. And that's because the controls are close to the window, and can still use the infinite plane when throwing the mouse up to that menu. This advantage is overstated -- the Windows menus are so damn close to the top of the screen in a maximized window that you can still "throw" it up to the top and then make an extremely minor correction anyway. Of course, after a while you don't need to throw it up to the top anyway, and you become more precise...

              There's a reason no one else is implementing the single-menu mode, and it has nothing to do with patents.
              Well, he claims that a Mac pull down menu can be accessed 5 times faster than a Windows pull down menu. And he seems to have tested it. I don't know if it has been corroborated by other researchers, but it seems plausible to me. That said, if you solve a problem somewhere, you often create a problem elsewhere. Even if a Mac pull down menu can be accessed 5 times faster because of the single menu, the single menu creates problems of its own, problems arguably worse than relatively slower access to pull down menus.
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              • #22
                Well, he claims that a Mac pull down menu can be accessed 5 times faster than a Windows pull down menu.
                The fact that he quantified the speed of accessing a menu is enough to tell you he pulled it out of his ass...

                This guy was part of the team that decided to use the single menu. Of course he's going to defend it. He left before the Dock was put into place, of course he's going to pick it apart.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Asher

                  The fact that he quantified the speed of accessing a menu is enough to tell you he pulled it out of his ass...
                  I'm sure the people who study GUIs measure these kinds of things.

                  This guy was part of the team that decided to use the single menu. Of course he's going to defend it. He left before the Dock was put into place, of course he's going to pick it apart.
                  He makes some good points nonetheless. Its not complete BS. For example, he's right about the auto-hidden taskbar: its too easy to trigger by accident. It can be a pain in the ass.

                  He's also right, IMO, about the hierarchical menus:

                  Using Windows, users have to slide across just right, least they slip down to the next menu at the last moment.
                  That also can be a pain in the ass. Don't know if the Apple way is the best, as he claims, but it would be nice if Microsoft fixed that one. Of course, you'll say that Apple's is the worst solution ever
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                  • #24
                    He makes some good points nonetheless. Its not complete BS. For example, he's right about the auto-hidden taskbar: its too easy to trigger by accident. It can be a pain in the ass.


                    That's why you just leave the taskbar on top.

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                    • #25
                      A personal gripe. Why can't we reorganize the Start menu in Windows XP? For example, I'd like to put all my games in a folder called "games". But AFAIK, its impossible.
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                      • #26
                        It's really easy. Click and drag the thing you want to move, where you want to move it.

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                        • #27
                          Why is that impossible? Create a folder called games and when installing your games, change the filepath to C:/games/X Game
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by nostromo
                            A personal gripe. Why can't we reorganize the Start menu in Windows XP? For example, I'd like to put all my games in a folder called "games". But AFAIK, its impossible.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                              He makes some good points nonetheless. Its not complete BS. For example, he's right about the auto-hidden taskbar: its too easy to trigger by accident. It can be a pain in the ass.


                              That's why you just leave the taskbar on top.
                              You're joking, right? That would be far worse. There's far more action going on upstairs than downstairs.
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                              • #30
                                How is it worse?

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